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- Oregonians are gathering in the State Capitol of Salem today to speak out against Senate Bill 4 (Type: photo | Published: 2015-03-09T20:21:36+0000)
Mothering Magazine: Oregonians are gathering in the State Capitol of Salem today to speak out against Senate Bill 442, which would remove religious and philosophical exemptions for vaccines--making every single vaccine mandatory. Children who have missed or delayed any vaccination would be banned from school unless they have a state approved medical exemption. Whatever your feelings about vaccines, parents should have the right to make medical decisions for their children. We are with these ralliers in spirit as they fight for basic parental rights and medical choice.Comments:
nassorc yentruoc - It also locks parents into whatever other vaccines are created and mandated by the corrupt CDC, regardless of safety, efficacy, or relevance. Nope nope nope. More of my choices removed by my government...starting to resemble scary Nazi Germany, where "the greater good" was more important than personal choice.
nosnum nonnahs - This is for ALL vaccines, people. Even gardasil, the hpv vaccine, which is well known for harmful side effects.
So, the pharmaceutical company, who doesn't give a shit about your children, bring out some new vaccine, barely tested, and now BY LAW I have to make my children get it? No thanks. I vaccinate according to my peds schedule but even I would be moving away from Oregon if this passed. That is truly terrible.
nnamreh nerual - How about my body my choice? I do not want anyone to legislate what I do with my body and I sure as shit do no want the government making healthcare choices for my children. I am not anti-vaccination, I want the liberty to choose the pace and types of vaccines that are right for my children. My 4&6 year olds aren't having sex or using drugs so the Hep B vaccine is NOT appropriate at this time.
yrotciv lehcar - Mothering magazine has always been pro-choice, in all parenting aspects..if you don't like that, or what they stand for, go to parenting mag. No one has the right to take other's choices away!
nibor yknip issej - Child 1 has severe reactions.
Child 2 does not qualify for exemption, despite genetic similarities that may put them at a higher risk for the same reactions.
Child 2 is not qualified for medical exemption.
Tell me again how this isn't sacrificing and taking risks for others?
neslekkim annaoj - This bill makes sense. You ARE free to not vaccinate your child. They are protecting other children from diseases spread by unvaccinated children.
noslen yentraccm eisus - Idiocracy is upon us. This bill does not make sense, it feeds on effective fear mongering. The only epidemic that warrants emergency measures is uninformed masses clamoring to be protected by a nanny state, bought and paid for by the highest bidder. There is far more danger of mortality rates from a one size fits all mandatory schedule. Learn your history...go beyond soundbites and the CDC website. Follow the money.
nilkcirts anitsirhc - This looks like a gateway bill, it could set a precedent in the future for the gov to remove other rights from us. I vaccinate but its my choice and it should be a choice
kciluap nellum enirehtak - It’s pretty straight-forward. You DO have the right to withhold vaccinations from your children, just don’t send them to public school. It’s a social agreement folks. There are fragile children out there who CANNOT be vaccinated and are at great risk due to the parents who insist it’s their right to put them in danger. Herd immunity is a real and not terribly complex concept. Think it through and be responsible, whatever you choose. It’s not just about YOU and YOUR kid, it’s about ALL the kids.
esuohnettir enaj - Thank you, Mothering Magazine. It was in the pages of your magazine, back in 1988, that I first read information about vaccinations, and how it wasn't a "one size fits all" medical procedure. And, I am proud to say, that I was at the rally today. Yes To Medical Freedom! <3
treblig neelie - It does not matter whether you are for or against, I have said this on another page, no one should be forced to be vaccinated. I am not sure why people are blindly willing to give up their rights as once they go it is hard to gain back. Please wake up as you are putting not only yourself but the larger population in harms way by allowing the government too much authority.
If this passes, there is no choice. Correct you can withhold but not send them to school. But, what good is that as another regulation will be passed saying without a "government" sponsored education you cannot work or do this or that and you will be forced into one way or another. Please do not let corrupt individuals scare you into voting for this. It is NOT in the "common person's" best interest at all.
rekab ennaxer yoj - I sincerely hope the parents win and the bill dies.
notlad deer hteb - I wonder if those who want to remove all choice for vaccinations realize the Adult Vaccination program is being proposed and they would have to submit as well.
yentraccm aniger - No on SB - 442
YES on Medical FREEDOM! !!!!
gnis-nanahcub irok - Thank you for covering this important issue! I was at the rally today with my babies and my mama friends. We will beat this garbage!
remlap eissej - Like the NO on SB-442 FB Page! https://www.facebook.com/NoOnSB442
oicnaic-inittum annod - Blessings be with these parents who are starting to defend a fight we all are fighting! No matter your stance, NO ONE should make medical decisions for our kids but us! That's why God trusted us with them.
yelims smailliw eiluj - The fact that it applies to ALL vaccines is insane. As other people have mentioned, some of these vaccines are not entirely necessary. Also some of them are not offered to everyone in other countries, such as the UK, where the government pays for healthcare and therefore carefully evaluates the necessity, efficacy, and cost of vaccines.
sov nehcterg - So WHO declared the emergency, ONE strange Oregon Senator (the sponsor!!!) THAT'S who!
yeldnah bj - Every member of the Oregon legislature needs to read this article. The country we fought for our freedom is more free than we are!!
ikslow rehtaeh - I like how this nicely lays out the facts for everyone to fully understand the actual data and how it's reported. So many people have no idea.
- Brilliant response. Thank you Heidi Roger of SafeMinds for having the courage to speak for all (Type: link | Published: 2015-03-10T05:07:52+0000)
Mothering Magazine: Brilliant response. Thank you Heidi Roger of SafeMinds for having the courage to speak for all parents whose children have been injured by vaccines. Jimmy Kimmel Live: I hope your entire team will take the time to read this painfully honest response to your "humor."Comments:
rehcnim latsyrc - I can't take any "letter" serious when it starts by claiming vaccines cause autism. There was absolutely nothing brilliant about her response.
elttil l haras - Wow really expected better from this publication. Very disappointing. I'm also sad, as a parent of a child on the spectrum, that this mother thinks her child was 'injured' by his vaccines and it 'gave him' autism. No honny. :(
kivøn oj - 1. One study indicated a link, it was debunked, removed from the journal, and the researcher was disciplined for deliberately falsifying data.
2. When a kid gets polio, we'll talk.
Unfollowing as well. What the heck? Ridiculous.
llahsram gnuoy .r acissej - Unfollowing page. I'm a mother, a scientist, a biologist, and a doctor. Enough said.
enip enaj - I am a nurse and old enough to have known people who had polio as children. My sister's best friend spent her life in a wheelchair because of it. Vaccines have saved countless lives. Children die from measles and other preventable diseases. Vaccinating your children is the responsible thing to do.
draw nonnaihr - I've followed your magazine for years, but this open letter is just too much.
I struggled to read beyond the first sentence, saying her some was poisoned by the Mercury in his vaccines, which caused his autism... I'd like to know how she came to this conclusion?
euhanod etak - One of the worst parts about living in our entitled age is people rarely get to see first hand what a disease was like before vaccinations. I hear Polio, Measles, Small pox were all an awesome experience. I was "lucky" and got chicken pox when I was younger and later Shingles. These are relatively minor viruses that caused me months of pain, and literal scaring. That is not something I would ever expose my child to if I didn't have to. The risks of vaccinations far out weigh the risks of not getting one.
naheehs esseh htebazilerd - I LOVE this! THANK YOU By the way, I too am a mother, a scientist, a biologist, and a doctor. Enough said.
narocroc .v anirakana - I have two wonderful children on the spectrum. I love them as they are. There is no evidence that vaccines cause autism. Correlation does not mean causation. I also find it disturbing/insulting/offensive and, frankly, appalling that people would prefer the possibility of having a child die of measles, rather than live with autism. Is the fear of autism so strong that it makes the prospect of dying of measles preferable? Measles can also lead to severe developmental disabilities. I am an occupational therapist, and I embrace neuro diversity and encourage people to focus on and develop individual strengths. I also support herd immunity and eliminating preventable communicable diseases. It's embarrassing to be associated with a publication that promotes ignorant fear-mongering, so I'm saying goodbye to Mothering after fifteen years. I have heard both sides of the argument and researched the evidence. Vaccines save lives, and the supposed link to autism was debunked.
srram ellerub enileuqcaj - I didn't know Gandhi said that. I appreciate hearing from both sides and I think people who refuse to look at both sides are fools.
nesnej lleb acirederf - "Brilliant response"??? No.
trebmuh htebazile - In 2006 I was beginning vaccinations for my newborn daughter. I loved mothering magazine and found the approach to parenting to be helpful and loving. I took a lot of what you said about vaccines very seriously. I am a scientist though, and as I looked further and talked to my very calm kind, open to different approaches, pediatrician, I discovered the absence of any real sceintific basis for the "vaccines cause autism" debate. I am so sorry to see you all furthering the hysteria. You lend it credence by putting your name and your full support behind it.
seniam yelir nagem - I'm saddened that this is the direction Mothering Magazine is going. I've loved you over the years, but I'll also be unfollowing this page.
enoihccannap aneri - Because Gandhi is an expert on vaccines, with all those biological and immunological degrees/masters/phds he has. How about we talk about all the children who have died or been permanantly disabled by preventable diseases such as Streptococcus pneumoniae - I've worked in pathology for 12 years and nothing sticks with me more than the night I was rostered on in the lab when a 2 year old child that died from Strep pneumo sepsis because her mother "didn't believe in vaccines". You guys are fear mongering and spreading misinformation. Stop listening to celebrities and start listening to REAL experts, like doctors and scientists who develop these life saving vaccines. How quickly people forget that without vaccines, we'd all still be dying from diseases such as Smallpox, Polio, Mumps, Measles, tetanus, Hepatitis B, diptheria, and whooping cough, to name a few.
ttimhcs htebazile - It's odd how you chose a quote from Gandhi without realizing what occurred short after: "I can't sleep. These kiddies are fading away like little buds. I feel the weight of their deaths on my shoulders. I prevailed upon their parents not to get them vaccinated. Now the children are passing away. It may be, I am afraid, the result of my ignorance and obstinacy; and so I feel very unhappy."
ttimhcs htebazile - Mothering this is incredibly offensive to families with children on the spectrum. I have been a follower of your publication for years, and I too have a son who one day, at about 15 months, had a high fever, stopped speaking and regressed into ASD. Yes, it was difficult and scary, but the odd thing was, I was an anti-vaxxer at the time, and so he had *no* vaccines. Nothing, and it happened anyway, in the exact same way and at the exact time that he *would* of gotten his MMR just as it has with thousands of others. ASD is not vaccine related, so far the science proves that it starts in utero, and I'm more into finding him treatments that work than pointing fingers and going on witch hunts like this author. I have to reiterate that this is very very offensive to mothers of children with ASD, and being that you have always been a reasonably responsible and caring publication, I don't know why you would degrade yourself to this alarmist tabloid stuff, something that can put so many people in harms way. :-(
enocim ellehcim - unfollowing. this is irresponsible.
sttuts refinnej - Oh but rather the kid gets polio and be paralyzed for the rest of their lives. I believe vaccinations help way more than any harm they supposedly cause. Autism is not linked to vaccinations. It was proven that it was not. I liked this page but with the others above I am unfollowing/unliking this page. These diseases are not irradicated and getting them is preventable so why wouldn't you?!
neppeok .m yelhsa - And what about the millions of Children and adults who are injured because of not being vaccinated? What about those? They out number those who are injured by vaccines. Medicine is not an exact science but it sure as hell has come a long way. Penicillin can cause life threatening reactions as well, but It also Saves countless lives.
hcsammod narom tenaj - Unfollowing too.vaccines didnt cause my family members to have Autism. Vaccines save lives.
kivøn oj - http://www.gandhi-manibhavan.org/eduresources/chap8.htm
1. He opposed vaccines in the 20's and 30's
2. He was opposed to them because of the cows
3. He told his followers to vaccinate if they chose to, after children died of smallpox because of his recommendations
- In Mattel’s demo, Barbie asks many questions that would elicit a great deal of information ab (Type: link | Published: 2015-03-16T20:31:17+0000)
Mothering Magazine: In Mattel’s demo, Barbie asks many questions that would elicit a great deal of information about a child, her interests, and her family. This information could be of great value to advertisers and be used to market unfairly to children.”Comments:
etro zeugirdor anairam - Barbie, or whatever doll, is the projection of the child's imagination, aspirations and dreams. They don't need the doll to answer, their imagination provides the answers.
laen elohcin ennoid - Well... that's not creepy at all.
refeahcs enotskcalb sirk - And Big Brother has gone to a new level...
tseb nwahs - I hope people are smart enough to not buy this
narocroc namttip nnej - Hell to the no. This is ridiculous. Not only is that way out of line and inappropriate on Mattel's part, but I remember (& have overheard) the imaginative self talk that happens while playing with dolls. The whole point is that the child is testing out ideas and words and thoughts and feelings THROUGH PLAY - which is how children learn and cope and develop. How dare Mattel or any company think that it's appropriate to interfere with that by trying to create a manufactured response from the damn toy.
lruc ytrehod haras - As if Barbie wasn't bad enough!
namdlog adnama - Makes me think of the book 1984
ylad l eiggug - If this bothers you, better take a second look at your favourite smart phone apps, such as cartwheel, shopkick, and facebook. And your xbox one. And your smart tvs.
namlleps elocin - Not in my house.
namdlog adnama - No way!!! They will also be hearing conversations of others in the home. Beyond creepy!
eiuol .s imoan - Baby cams have been hacked before so I would seriously worry about a predator hacking into the feed to gather info on the children
yawollag ellehcim - What happens when they get weird feedback like when the parents start messing with Mattel by taking the dolls at night & making Barbie & Ken total S&M kinkmasters?
tterb adnama siol - Creepy as f***, also shows how ridiculously out of touch Mattel has become, both to its demographic and their parents. Wonder if this orwellian barbie heralds the end for barbie as a brand :/
lladnyt nevtni enirehtak - http://org.salsalabs.com/o/621/p/dia/action3/common/public/?action_KEY=17347
nesnah amme - Is this real? Unbelievably creepy!
drofdoow eveiveneg - Not appropriate because there are adults in the house too and this is an invasion of privacy. In our household we work from home so there are often business conversations going on and it's not unusual for toys to be scattered around the house (not just bedroom or playroom).
reihcs enyaw - Yeah, I'm thinkin this doll won't be around my grandkids or at least I hope!
nagol arol - It should be called Brainwasher Barbie.
lladnyt nevtni enirehtak - Campaign for a Commercial Free Childhood has a petition ^
nosredna yeliah - As if Barbie wasn't creepy enough! Now this.
rellaw aileinad - That would be a nope.
- What first food did you feed your baby/babies? (Type: link | Published: 2015-03-05T20:20:32+0000)
Mothering Magazine: What first food did you feed your baby/babies?Comments:
ecalevol enilorac - Soft-boiled egg yolk from our backyard chickens.
ssalgtrah refinnej - Avocado, just cut it i n half, took out pit, mashed a bit, and ate right out of it.
ynnek yelyah - Avocado! Then sweet potatoes and then chicken liver. ☺️
nesredna rehtaeh - Avocado! Today actually! 😊
namgne esiole - chew it for them...it's predigested that way
erytnicam tiac - Shrimp and asparagus. Happened to be what we were eating that night.
eiznekcm-orotalliv .s ydnic - Very first were Pinto beans, then sweet potato, carrots with apples.. All homemade.
snave aeslehc - Very first food was carrots.
enyap rehtaeh - First food for my oldest was rice cereal. She hated it. My youngest was acorn squash. She loved that.
ffehcmuan haras - Banana and avocado
nospmoht rehcok locin - Mashed avocados!
yelrow llessur eissac - Avocado today in fact for my youngest at 6 mos. The eldest had oatmeal at 6 mos first.
ort aras - I think sweet potato, then blueberries, then avocado. Funny, these three are all his fave foods today, four years later! Our new daughter will hopefully enjoy real, organic, whole food like her brother:)
ppik lehcar - Avocado and boiled egg.
notsuoh yerdua - Avocado! The sweet potato, carrots, banana and oatmeal.
stnemelc adnama - Banana, then avocado, and then sweet potato.
gnortsmra ttomredcm yrrek - Avocado and then sweet potato.
nosbocaj yenah arual - All three kids have had avocado for their first food
remiw nairb - Nice list, but none of that provides what weaning babies need most: iron (nor do "fortified" rice cereals which ALL use iron that's not bioavailable). Best first food is liver. It's what traditional cultures use. Good sources are chicken livers (traditional cultures would use goose or seal). Only use confirmed organic sources - as toxins are present in traditional farmed chickens. Egg yolks run a close second for nutrient density.
nosliw eille - My third baby wouldn't eat anything until 7-8 months and would only eat whole sections of oranges. She would just gum and suck the juice out lol silly babies.
trahenir ibob - Blended collards & pumpkin seeds
- Lawmakers across the country are moving to make vaccinations mandatory and to remove... (Type: link | Published: 2015-03-03T18:52:01+0000)
Mothering Magazine: Lawmakers across the country are moving to make vaccinations mandatory and to remove...Comments:
nospmoht ahsatan - Regardless of where you stand on the vaccination issue, please take a moment and decide if you are okay with the government deciding what medical procedure you should have. This is more than about vaccines; our personal rights are being taken away! Sign this petition to the Whitehouse and make your voice heard. https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/prohibit-any-laws-mandating-force-and-requirement-vaccinations-any-kind/HW1B3YKz
onerom refinnej - I think many people are missing the bigger picture, here. This is not about exemptions or homeschooling in lieu of forced vaccinations... It's about government intrusion in a personal medical decision and the potential for that to escalate into increasing loss of individual medical liberties. It's really a thought-provoking exercise in where this particular trend could lead us... Forced sterilization if you want to receive government welfare support? Government funding for sex education programs only if birth control pills are mandatorily administered? Government sponsored medical research only if you sign over the patent to your genome? And so forth into the realm of what seems ridiculous, but is still possible...
This is way beyond vax or anti-vax, public or homeschool. This is a question of government reach and where those boundaries will be drawn.
sehguh ytsirk - I believe that kids should get vaccines. Do I think it should be make law? No. I don't feel comfortable with that.
enyoc assilem - This is NOT a vaccine debate. It's a RIGHTS debate. Anyone should have the right to decide what goes into their body or the body of their children.
namdeirf refinej - I vaccinate my kids, but I feel that it's my choice. Letting a for - profit company (vaccine industry) make decisions for me, scares me. Schools are full of germs. If one wants to protect an immunocompromised child, a classroom is not the place for him.
soetam sixela nollaf - Its not mandatory vaccination its mandatory to enter into public school. You want your kid unvaccinated? Homeschool them or find a like minded school... like I've heard somany times from anti vaccinators, we need to do what WE think is best for OUR kids to keep them safe, which means avoiding contact as much as possible from people who choose not to vaccinate. So you guys make decisions for your kids, and we decide for ours
nesmelliw yeltneb - If they require it to be mandatory then it should be a choice to pay the taxes for a school your kids legally can't go to. What about the kids who cannot be vaccinated for health reasons? While some will fall in the medical exemption category, others won't. For instance, kids with eczema have been known to have higher rates of injuries and side effects after shots, but aren't always covered in the medical exemptions.
rekaburb nwaf - if you believe it is NOT OK to take our rights away as parents then sign this petition. Then check your email to verify your email address. The deadline is coming up. https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/prohibit-any-laws-mandating-force-and-requirement-vaccinations-any-kind/HW1B3YKz
enroht ryc armat - Next they will mandate that any child with an ADHD diagnosis must be medicated to attend public schools. Don't give up your parental freedoms people!
zcagob-ppillihp assilem - This is sad. How pathetic that parents may be forced to inject toxins into our kids. How can they do this for those with religous or medical reasons? I can't see the whole country doing this but if so, then the vaccine manufactures finally need to become responsible for those kids that are injured or die from vaccines and stop pawning those seeking compensation on VEARS.
acuzzam ikswejam asil - Did you ladies read the article, or are you just jumping all over people who are concerned with the safety and efficacy of vaccines before you read it? This media storm of bullying and marketing press releases from pharmaceutical companies who are more concerned with stock prices than public health is changing law makers minds and will be key in removing parental rights that are already in place - vaccine exemptions. Some people opt out - always have. These decisions aren't being made democratically, instead politicians are being forced to politicize an issue that should be looked at objectively on both sides of the aisle. We all want our kids to be safe, parents deserve to make the decision to vaccinate, or have ANY risky medical procedure, without state or federal pressure.
ttocs rehtaeh - 1. Junk food is not a proper analogy for vaccines. At all. Someone choosing to not vaccinate their child can get another child sick and possibly cause their death. Sharing a soda in the lunchroom is a horrible analogy for that and doesn't really compare at all.
2. Mandated vaccines wouldn't force vaccines....it would just make the choice to not vaccinate include not being able to make other choices, like public school. This is perfectly reasonable.
silaerob arorua - This isn't a vaccination issue, or a rights issue, this is a financial issue, a for profit issue, a government that is corrupt issue, and most of all an allowing conflict of interest issue! Wake up folks! Until big pharm is prohibited from lobbying and their CEO's prohibited from volleying between government positions and corporate positions , we are arguing a lost cause. This is sad.
elppa yelhsa - This article is ridiculous. It's completely reasonable to mandate vaccination for those children attending PUBLIC SCHOOL. No one is talking about forcing all children to be vaccinated.
If you want to ignore things like science and facts, that's fine. But you don't get to send your child to a public school and put other students at risk, particularly those who cannot be vaccinated due to allergies, immune system problems, etc.
This isn't "Big Brother" it's common sense.
eekcm-abrohc arual - What about those that are already damaged by vaccines? Will they be mandated to death?
sened ytsirhc - This article is inflammatory and misses the point. The kids who have compromised immune systems have no choice about whether to enter a school with kids whose parents are paranoid about minuscule amounts of "toxins". The government mandates that children must be in carseats. And that we must wear seatbelts. There are many instances when society collectively decides that individual rights are not stronger than the public good. All you people outraged about the vaccine laws: are you also arguing that the government doesn't have the right to regulate gun sales because our individual right to own a gun is greater than any harm that might result to innocent people?
seog yrrehs - Kids eating cheeseburgers isn't going to kill the child that can't eat cheeseburgers where a kid that can get a vaccine but doesn't contracting a disease and spreading it to other children that are unable to be vaccinated may kill the unvaccinated kid.. May leave them deaf... Brain damaged. Crappy analogy.
Also... If you look at the ingredients and remember that something on almost every kitchen counter is made from two elements that are not safe when taken individually... Sodium and chloride... But we need it to live when combined as salt... So don't just jump at Mercury because it's not the bad form of mercury...which is classified as a neurotoxin along with Fluoride... The stuff you probably brush your teeth with.
sdleif eiluj - This is a great article. Government force will not stop here, I hope everyone will consider the consequences.
nesor harobed - The strongest opposition to mandatory vaccination has nothing to do with being pro- or anti-vax. Its not about that.
Its about whether the government can dictate that you have a medical procedure, even against your will.
If you are pro-choice on the abortion debate, you need to be pro-choice here.
If you opposed the Affordable Care Act because you feared, rightly or wrongly government "death panels" deciding who lived or died by dictating who could get what treatment, you also need to be against mandatory vaccination.
Most parents who have had vaccine-injured children are already in opposition. Most vaccine-injured adults are, as well.
For the rest... There are over THREE HUNDRED vaccines in development, ranging from Ebola (which less than 0.0001% of the entire human population is at risk for) to smoking cessation. (Yes, a vaccine for smoking cessation - they want to prevent you from stopping smoking?) Every vaccine is a loaded revolver pressed to your neurological system. How many times will you give up the right to bodily integrity, not just for yourself but for everyone else in the country,while you play Russian roulette with your fears?
nórret yerbua - "My position doesn't have anything to do with either factor. I don’t assume that the big business of vaccines is a giant lie for profit, and I don’t assume that anti-vaxers just hate anything too sci-fi. But what vaccines are if they ARE effective, is unnecessary cheating in a battle we are already winning to the detriment of ALL LIFE ON THE PLANET, and what they are if they ARE risky, is a purposeful violation to someone who didn't choose them (instead of a faultless natural risk). If they are not effective and not risky, they're a waste of time, money, and resources. So... either way... I don't really like them. " http://whatuneverknewuneverknew.blogspot.com/2015/02/on-mandatory-vaccinations.html
renrut nerak - And are you willing to let the government decide which vaccines are required? How about Gardisil? Are you willing to sign a blank check for this?
- Maryland parents who allowed their children, ages 10 and 6, to walk home alone from a park last (Type: link | Published: 2015-03-04T01:50:55+0000)
Mothering Magazine: Maryland parents who allowed their children, ages 10 and 6, to walk home alone from a park last December have been found responsible for “unsubstantiated” child neglect by Montgomery County Child Protective Services. The Washington Post reports: Danielle and Alexander Meitiv hoped the nationally deb…Comments:
nnud ejteiht ellenaj - This is absolutely INSANE!. This country is getting so out of hand interfering with individual/family rights. The parents weren't being cavalier. They TRAINED them how to walk home - together. They weren't 3 or 4 - one of them was 10 for heaven's sake. The children in our neighborhood are just 1/10 of a mile from being an entire mile from school - and they walk, ride bikes, or are taken by parents - all three are considered valid options. When I was working, I taught HS and left before my oldest went to school - he was on his own for an hour or so after he was too old for the before/after care at the school. I would have been in their shoes too. Children in other times & places have jobs at age 10. Has CPS so emptied their files on all the parents who are truly neglectful and abusive that they have extra time on their hands to spend villainizing parents who made a conscious decision regarding their children?Ugh.
anila derf - CPS better never open a Beezus and Ramona book or their heads will explode at the "neglect" of it all.
yerwol annaoj - My 7 yo daughter asked me today why I don't let her walk the 4 blocks to the park alone. I had to tell her that I was afraid I'd get arrested or have the kids removed from our home. Even though she is smart and well prepared for it, can't do it anymore.
yelnats ynahteb - For those of you who are so afraid the boogeyman is going to snatch your children off the sidewalk, you need a reality check. If someone is going to hurt your child, it will likely be a person you know and trust.
sgninnej nej - Yet cps won't hold child predators responsible because of the "burden of proof" and mothers still have to hand over their children to fathers who abuse them. Disgusting.
nosnhoj nagaem - When I was ten years old I was in Junior High and was a Red Cross certified babysitter. I was responsible for two young children, in their homes, at least one night every weekend. And I was paid to do it. In our state, an 8 year old can legally stay home by themselves. How is a 10 yo responsible for a younger sibling child endangerment?
yhtanreba nibbor - Risk now is no different from 30 years ago. I can only imagine the damage being done to our children, treating them like they are incapable of being unsupervised...or behaving like the world is out to get them. Most kidnappings are not by strangers! Yes, there are stories, but the risk is miniscule. People get murdered on busses, should everyone stop taking public transit?
nilkcirts anitsirhc - Stupid waste of tax money, there are worse parents out of there that really do neglect their kids.
recneps ellehcim - Insane. My liberty is shuddering.
arušim alim - Wow, I am so surprised the number of people who think it's ok to let 2 young kids walk one MILE by themselves. It takes one moment for a pedophile or psycho to snatch kids up, and you will most likely NEVER see them again. I woukd never risk my child's life like that... especially since there is a registered sex offender who lives right by that park.
tlefuhs eilatan - This is stupid. I get being worried because there are psychos out there, but there were psychos out there 30 years ago when I was a kid. We walked everywhere!
namro .j yllom - Our city doesn't even bus kids who live within a mile of school...
tolliug yelhsa - Yet CPS allows children to remain in homes and suffer obvious signs of neglect and emotional abuse. As well as physical abuse by other children.
regref nitsirk hakceber - That is ridiculous! I walked to and from school without adult supervision since I was 6 or 7. Weird how paranoid the world is getting.
namrhub haras - Paranoia in this country creates children who cannot deal with life's lumps. Risks are a part of life. There could be a school shooting - should we not let kids go to school? The house could burn down - should we not sleep indoors? When you look at the actual factual chances of a stranger kidnapping, it's just living in fear, not anywhere close to "common sense" or "basic safety".
tresse ytsirk - The article states it was unsubstantiated neglect. In my state that means no neglect was found during the investigation. Was this a typo or a misquote?
evol hael - Idk. Even in our small town there are suspicious people driving by schools. Kids can be kidnapped too easily to take risks.
eznih thguancm einram - Government agencies in all their forms need to back to F off! Feels more like a police state lately than the land of the free.
zraltok nosrevys ycnan - Sad for our children. Stinks to be a kid now.
tnuh nire - Doesn't unsubstantiated mean NOT guilty?
egroeg-ppuhs hteb - Doesn't "unsubstantiated" mean that it wasn't considered neglect?
- Find more from Sarah on the Mama Birth Blog. I remember registering for my first baby before he (Type: link | Published: 2015-02-18T22:57:30+0000)
Mothering Magazine: Find more from Sarah on the Mama Birth Blog. I remember registering for my first baby before he was born. I went to a giant baby warehouse store with a HUGE corporate list of things that I “needed” for this new little one and obediently registered. And then he came. The crib sat in the …Comments:
yremogtnom enna - I tell everyone all you NEED for a newborn is a mother. And diapers are useful. Everything else is optional.
srewob assilem - I generally agree with all of these, except...I do think babies need socks. Especially when going out in public and/or being outside in colder weather. Yeah, you will lose some socks, but baby socks are pretty cheap.
nitram k e esined - ??? By definition, unless your baby is to go naked for months, you need a "layette". It's just a fancy word for clothes for the baby. Doesn't mean fancy clothes, just means baby clothes.
htoob dnalhgih lem - This article was stupid when it was written and posted the first time. Sure, some of these items are not needed for some moms. Everyone's list of what is and isn't needed for a new baby is going to be different. Not every mom has the luxury of staying home with her baby, or a baby with a great latch so mom never needs to pump. Not every mom wants to co sleep, not every mom can baby wear and needs options for putting baby down. I get it. It was suppose to be light hearted, but of all the unnecessary baby items to list items like breast pumps and cribs and swings is silly and, honestly, sounds incredibly privileged.
Who the heck doesn't know what a layette is? I'm pretty sure all babies need clothing.
kceb yma - No crib? Uh...yeah, that's dangerous. I'll just put her in the drawer. 😝
nodrog e tenaj - I rec'd my first issue of "Mothering" at my first baby shower; it was the Jan/Feb 1998 issue and had an article by Heather Henderson entitled "Nursery - Not". It was along a similar theme - I remember it well. That was also the beginning of my love affair with "mothering" and "Mothering"! :)
yar aveyozrim arian - I have all and use them all, and while I didn't NEED the wipes warmer, I'm happy I got it after seeing how my baby cried with a cold wipe. Shoes - definitely yes to socks, but shoes are too cute to pass 😉 had only a bouncy seat with first one, but also have a swing with the second cuz he doesn't dig the bouncer! And it buys me time to run around the house and get things done. Didn't have a baby monitor the first time, and don't yet for my second baby, but about to get a video monitor for when he starts sleeping in his crib in his room 😊
alocin tffp ycnan - Bad article. Every mum and household is different. Can't fit a cot in my room. Need a crib which I got from Ebay second hand for 30 quid. It's beautiful and was hardly used by the person I got it from but I wouldn't do without it. As for baby monitor this is good 4 me now as I keep having to run upstairs every 20 minutes to check on my baby. Sometimes she pulls the covers over her head so my monitor is so helpful . No more achy thighs. As for baby wipe warmer not nessacary but handy as my house is quite cold even when heating on and my baby jumps every time I wipe a freezing wipe all over her bum. Not all Sleepsuits have feet and i don't want to make my baby cold by having her feet exposed mid Feb in my cold house so socks are important. What if you want her to wear pants or leggings ect? Can't leave her barefoot! As for pacifiers mine was given one in the neonatal unit as she was born at 2 months premature and the babies are given them ad there are so many. They can be given anytime you don't need to wait 6 weeks and my baby enjoys them
rogergcam eirrak - I really love my video monitor. I didn't use it for baby but for toddler and older. It has saved me from so many wet sheets and night time wandering.
rolyat icsa eitak - My baby is almost 8 months old and has still never seen the inside of his crib ;)
deer mj - Every. Child. Is. Different. Some children like those with sensory issues need a wipes warmer. And, every parent is different. It's fantastic that so many don't have feeding issues. Kudos to them!! Some have ongoing and awful feeding issues and a pump is absolutely necessary, perhaps even an expensive one. This is a myopic article about the experience of one person that uses tone to imply that those that rely on these things are somehow doing it wrong. I'm thankful when parents simply support one another. Parenting is hard enough without implied judgment.
karovd netsirk - Wish I would have had this info before my LO arrived! I would have saved a lot of money & room in the house!! LOL
lenhef yffud refinnej - Wipe Warmer, diaper genie, baby shoes and theme nursery I agree with. The bouncer seats and swings I think depends on the baby and family dynamics. I have 4 and I used it with some and not with some. My oldest and 3rd liked the swing, 2nd and 4th did not. My boys all loved the bouncer jumperoo thing and my daughter hated it. Every baby is different and I know for a short time the swing saved my sanity with my first. Crib - my first didn't see the inside of the crib ever. My second did for a short while. My 3rd did when he was too big for the rock n play and my 4th got the most mileage from it. All different dynamics going on though as my daughter seen the crib the most mainly because my boys were constantly jumping in my bed in the middle of the night and I didn't want them crushing or smothering her. To each his own!
On the themed nursery though that's a hard one to pass on if you are a first time parent. Every new mom loves to create a nursery! No the bulky themed crib bedding isn't necessary at all but the nursery sure was fun to do!
gniwue anuasat - Hmmm, let's see.... Bought the fancy Amby Baby "crib", used for some amazing pics, then in my bed.... Fast forward 3 yrs later, bought beautiful pink/satin princess canopy bed with all the bells and whistles... Again, good for some amazing pics.. Then back in my bed. Now age 6 & still in my bed. :)
sttaw ynaffit - Yeah, I have to disagree... maybe you live in Hawaii, Florida, or SoCal where it's always warm but socks are kinda important in cold weather, a lot of baby's heat escapes there. Paci's are great for preemies. Cribs are excellent to use from the get-go so babies don't freak out when you introduce them at 6+ months and then wonder why they're losing it because they're in this foreign cage. All three of mine LOVED their swings (Mamaroo ALL the way, and this particular one is actually good for babies with reflux). Oh, and many people do have houses that are large enough to warrant monitors.
Need? Cloth diapers and mom's breasts.... convenient and very usable? A lot of stuff.
kcolrups ylime - A video monitor comes in handy when you co-sleep
nosretep nasus - If you are staying home with your baby what use would you have for a breast pump? I nursed nine babies and never had one.
uicnehg-kalwag eener - I loved my wipe warmer. I did keep my cloth wipes in it but even more so, I loved that when i changed my infants at night, I didnt disrupt them too much with a cold wipe to clean their poopy diaper. My boys all learned to sleep right through their night time change. I cloth diaper btw. Also a bouncer was all we used and it was nice for when i needed to put baby down like during a showers, cooking or other housework. I could keep baby very close but not have to constantly wear baby.
evol nadnerb - I distinctly remember feeling chumpy on the way home with the wipe warmer.
htebazile eirrac - For my first baby I was thrown a baby shower with guest list totaling 80 women. I received all of these things (and loads more) and didn't use a single one of them lol. The things I thought I "needed" basically were all just stored in the closet while the adorable crib, bedding, nursery decor, pump, bottles, wipe warmer ...etc, all collected dust (so to speak). For my second baby..... all I "needed" were some new onesies & diapers lol. The couch (or floor) was the perfect changing table, our bed was plenty big enough for all of us, didn't need bottles- I had boobs- and was very fortunate to be able to stay home with both my girls.... while I realize that some of these items work for other families ....for us we learned that we really didn't need all that much to raise our family.
drofwarc eisiam - So I LOVE mothering but, I use monitors, a diaper genie, a jumper and an expensive breast pump ( insurance paid for it)
- Parents now seem to be divided into two camps—the “pro-vaccine” and the “anti-vaccine. (Type: link | Published: 2015-02-20T21:35:22+0000)
Mothering Magazine: Parents now seem to be divided into two camps—the “pro-vaccine” and the “anti-vaccine.” But these are false categories that fail to acknowledge the range of difficult decisions that parents make regarding vaccination.Comments:
enizagam gnirehtom - Editor’s Note: Open discussion is welcome on Mothering, hate is not. Please respond thoughtfully and respectfully or your comment may be removed.
wommug nnyl hakeber - Thank you. This issue has become so divisive and vitriol-filled that I am at the point of basically refusing to discuss our personal vaccine decisions with anyone.....the demonization has to stop.
eerref ennael - Well, whatever happened to grey area?! I'm pro vaccine, while being cautious. If a vaccine is well tested and proven, why not. But I never followed the recommended schedule - why would you inject 5 different pathogens into your infants body at one time, five times in two years? I say do it carefully, cautiously and eventually.
elocin arat - The worst part of this debate is that pharmaceutical companies are less scrutinized because any criticism of any vaccine is brushed off as anti-science. I'm pro-vaccines, but this topic needs a much bigger set of voices in the middle ground.
kooc haras - thank you. i am shocked and hurt by how I have been literally attacked by friends...many of whom do not have children of thier own...over this recent campain against parents who don't vaccinate. I see parents making decisions everyday that I dont feel would be a good fit for my parenting style but I am strongly against mom-shamming. Discrimination and hatred about a very well educted choice I have made for my children seems to suddenly not only be fine with the majority of the population its becoming the norm. Fear can make people do a lot of "out-of-bounds" things but lets all remember to respect our fellow mom/dad friends and remember they are doing thier best.
sihtam allimaj - I just feel like this article perpetuates stupidity. This isn't a debate, it's a public health issue and goodness is it irresponsible not to vaccinate.
aicsit eilsel - Thank you for this! I'm so tired of all the hateful judging from both sides!
renrut refinnej - Agreed. I am pro-vaccine, but worked with our doctor to make our own schedule that I was comfortable with...never more than 2 shots at a time. My daughter also had a serious reaction to MMR and the dr tested titers for her instead of taking the booster (she is fully immune from one vaccine). Funny, but the same parents pushing such judgment often don't get flu vaccines, and flu is much more widespread and deadly than measles. My kids are fully vaccinated and we also opt into vaccines that aren't even part of the schedule. But, we choose what's right for us and don't judge those who have made a different decision. There are MANY reasons for people's personal decisions.
tuolc arual - Hear hear! I can't stand the vitriol I encounter everywhere while trying to research and make a decision.
tuoh red nav-tdrahnreb anna - I would be FAR more inclined to vaccinate if the shots were not grouped. Give me that option and I will revisit my current position. We even considers flying to France for the tetanus alone shot since it is the only place I can find it not grouped. A lot of us are not anti vax, just anti grouped.
eluom neb - Luckily for everyone this form of compassion wasn't evident in the campaign to vaccinate against smallpox and polio. The diseases that we ate vaccinated against are very serious, with consequences that are far reaching and damaging. I'm not sure compassion is really the word.
hciwmorb okmeraj acceber - I completely disagree with the approach taken in this editorial. It is irresponsible of Mothering Magazine. What is wrong with it is epitomized by this quote:"It’s time that we have compassion for one another, seeking to understand choices different from our own rather than simply dismissing them as foolish or selfish." This is a fundamental misapprehension of the nature of the debate around vaccination. It is not a matter properly of preference, choice or individual freedom. It is a matter of fact and science and imperically proven danger. This "agree to disagree" rhetoric is appropriate when we are talking about aesthetic choices like whether we like sugar in our coffee. It is not appropriate when we are talking about whether to drive drunk, commit hate crimes, or revive diseases that kill millions of children by refusing to vaccinate.
kenebmeb eitak - This article is spot on. We are all out there trying to do what is best for our precious little ones! My greatest concern lies in the fact that vaccine companies are not held liable for any injuries. It is possible to see the value in vaccines without being pro-vaccine.
knarf m esined - Thank you for compassionately representing both sides with such compassion, understanding, and knowledge. Two of my children are fully vaccinated, and two or not due to a vaccine injury that left us scared to death. I am on the side of right to choose aka informed consent.
yeneek arik - Of course, the upside of this debate is that we've all added the word "vitriol" to our vocabularies!
sok ldnaj - Great article. its become a issue I won't discuss.
rellok eikcaj - As someone who knew firsthand a perfectly healthy child who died from measles 60 years ago, and saw the pain and devastation her family went through, I can tell you that there is a reason that the measles vaccine was developed. It was to protect children and save lives. I just can't understand why anyone would choose not to protect their children from this disease, but more than that, how they can be comfortable putting other, more vulnerable children at risk due to their choices.
redaf einoj - I too join the camp of being compassionate to those who may have a different belief than us whether it's the vaccination issue, pro-life vs pro-choice or end of life issues. I think the important piece in all this is allowing parents the choice to use current vaccination recommendations or not or to use other methods of protecting their children's immune system which in turn protects the health of people they are in contact with. Empower people to make well educated decisions rather than insulting their intelligence by forcing one particular idea on them.
repsac irej - I just had a titer done, a test for disease immunity. Simple and quick blood draw. I'm immune to mumps and rubella but not measles (lame). So I will be getting a vaccination next week. I personally have had zero reactions to vaccines in my life. I will be fine. I'm doing my part to keep my community safe. And myself, because I'll be damned if y'all give me the damn measles like its 1953 up in here.
spillihp einahpets - More people should do research before they talk. My children are not vaccinated due to a family history of severe reactions. I'm tired of people just calling me stupid and that my kids should be taken from me for not vaccinating them. People say there are no dangerous side effects even though the government has a fund set up for those that are harmed or die from these vaccinations. For some there is a much higher risk of a severe reaction to vaccines leaving them with permanent problems or even taking their life than there is even contracting measles. As much as it scares some parents to not get their children vaccinated, it scares me to get mine vaccinated. Like the article says, there are valid fears on both sides.
tdrahnreb nosretep naoj - The point here is that immunization is more like a charcoal and beige issue than a black and white issue. There is far more evidence overall to support immunization, however, there is still risk, and we retain the right to balance the relative risk with the severity of the illness the vaccine prevents. I have 5 vaccinated children, but I wouldn't give an immunization to a newborn. We don't do flu shots. And I refused multiple immunizations at one time, using a modified schedule. I'm not anti vaccine, but rather pro research and truly informed consent.
- Thank you to Robert F. Kennedy Jr. for this guest post. "The debate over Thimerosal has precipi (Type: link | Published: 2015-02-24T01:25:59+0000)
Mothering Magazine: Thank you to Robert F. Kennedy Jr. for this guest post. "The debate over Thimerosal has precipitated a journalistic, as well as a public health crisis. For many years, I’ve been puzzled by the bland and apparently baseless insistence by members...Comments:
enizagam gnirehtom - Editor’s Note: Open discussion is welcome on Mothering, intolerance is not. Please respond thoughtfully and respectfully or your comment may be removed.
iccir anig - Is it me or are the pro-vaxers generally the ones doing the attacking? It's seriously giving those of us who support vaccination a bad name. I'm so tired of reading the nasty, disrespectful comments on this subject. Agree to disagree if you must but can't everyone just respect each other's differences? Attacking strangers from behind the veil of your computer, doesn't make anyone right, it makes them cowards. That and no one will be swayed by negativity and hurtful comments. Do what you believe is best for your family and leave it at that. It's really not that hard. Ok, end rant.
losreip rebma - Everyone is entitled to their opinion and should have the right to choose for themselves. Arguing it is like beating a dead horse. There is no right or wrong choice other than the right to choose.
nnaps htebazile nasus - Thimerosal hasn't been used in pediatric vaccines save for some flu vaccines in over a decade. And vaccines are not a causation for autism. Autism is a developmental condition that actually traces back to genetics and begins in the womb. Many parents do not observe their child being behind developmentally until they place them in daycare for the first time, often around 6 months-1 year of age. I have autism and just had this discussion with my autism psychologist. She specializes solely in ADHD and ASD. We did concur that, just as with ADHD, there may be environmental exacerbations for those genetically predisposed, that it is still genetic. We also concur that autism is not the worst thing that can happen even if vaccines did have a correlation. However, many questions have to be answered before any correlations can be made: 1. How did autism exist before vaccines? 2. How does it exist in countries that still do not have vaccines? 3. How have autism rates gone up when vaccine rates have gone down? 4. How are there twins on both sides of the spectrum of vaccinated and unvaccinated that only have one twin with autism? These pose serious concerns about correlations being made. Furthermore, autism is treatable, but if a child who is not fully vaccinated or an adult who may not have immunity any more or worse, a vaccinated immune deficient person who did not build antibodies at all gets the measles, is there treatment for the hearing loss, blindness, or death it can cause? At this point, I am just simply trying to understand as best I can, but in terms of experience, I support vaccines regardless of anything due to reasons I have laid out.
nesmelliw yeltneb - We don't know what causes autism so to say it can or cannot be caused my vaccinations is false.
nallimcam anirej - Thimerosal isn't used in Canada for pediatric vaccines... That aside, this article in no way proves vaccines cause autism.
tterb assilem - Congratulations. Children are dying of measles, or suffering brain damage as a result of the encephalitis it causes, and you're printing this garbage. Thimerosal isn't bioavailable, and isn't absorbed. This has been proven by SCIENCE. You and your fear mongering have no place in a civilized society where smart parents choose to immunize their children.
yodog-innav airelav - Did you all missed the fact that the article is reporting that CDC researchers/doctors are lying?!!! ON RECORD! ON MEDICAL JOURNALS?! Forget the fact that the flu shot is completely unnecessary and that vaccine stills protects us. The CDC is pressuring these researchers TO LIE. All for money! And you are all worrying about vaccines?! We have bigger issues here.
mosnar ffej - Thank you, Mothering Magazine Here is what so many should know, my little boy went from talking, happy all the time, sleeping through the night and had a unbelievable giggle, after a round of vaccines it all when away, he stop talking his last to words was bye bye baby & at that point my baby went bye bye, to sleeping 2 to 3 hours a day, inconsolable crying more then he was not crying, started throwing his head back & arching his back making it very hard to hold him, years later I would find out it was a symptom of encephalopathy (brain swelling) which is one of the side effects of vaccines. I grew up being very strongly pro-vaccine. So I got my son vaccinated on time, not a day late. At 15 months my son got 8 vaccines, I remember asking the nurse "are you sure this little feller is supposed to get all those vaccines" she did not say a word she just shook her head yes. Yes 8 vaccines in 1 day all in the same leg 3 with aluminum & 5 with mercury/thimerosal, (this was back before they started taking it out) which any toxicologist will tell you mercury is much more toxic when it is mixed with aluminum. And every package insert I have read (which is all of them or at least all that I can find) says use a different injection site for each vaccine given. But after my son was injured I changed my mind about vaccines. I/my son has paid the price I am not about to make (key word make) or ask, anyone else to pay the price.
drafarc hael - The article wasn't trying to say that vaccines cause autism. It was all about corruption and unethical relationships and actions within the agency and corporations which control vaccination.
Definitely enough information to make one question motivations. I guarantee if the IG showed up and did any investigation, something was not right.
nnyl assenav - My son had all thermisol free vaccines and he is a beautiful bright smart funny autistic boy.
It wasn't the vaccines that caused his autism.
rellim ynoteb - Kristen Preissinger fantastic resource . For those who didn't bother to read it, these are studies from medical journals, not written by green med info
kizlawok anail - Go straight to the CDC website. Brain damage is listed as a possible outcome for most if not all vaccines. So is death.
steehs assenav - The FDA safety limit for injected aluminum for a healthy infant is 5mcg/kg/day. Here is the list of aluminum in each vaccine:
Hib (PedVaxHib brand only) – 225 micrograms per shot.
Hepatitis B – 250 micrograms.
DTaP – depending on the manufacturer, ranges from 170 to 625 micrograms.
Pneumococcus – 125 micrograms.
Hepatitis A – 250 micrograms.
HPV – 225 micrograms.
Pentacel (DTaP, HIB and Polio combo vaccine) – 330 micrograms.
Pediarix (DTaP, Hep B and Polio combo vaccine) – 850 micrograms.
lednam kradnohs ynahteb - Is Robert Kennedy a scientist?
nosgnille eirrac - My children. My decision. I won't trust the government to tell me how to keep my children healthy and safe. Look at this country filled with sick individuals. This government has failed us yet again.
nomolos nad - I mean, no offense, but even snopes says this isn't accurate:
trevlac ellehcim - Forget about autism. I'm quite certain that more children and adults have died from adverse vaccine reactions then the measles in the past decade. How many others injured? Vaccines come with risks, therefore we should have the right to choose.
ossur ylreveb - Vaccine makers are protected by law from lawsuits, the gov buys up most of their vaccines and pimps the out thru the cdc, who then reports on said vaccines. I believe nothing that comes out of those three entities mouth, nor those they employ. They have vaccines to sell and lawsuits to avoid. Vital information has been suppressed since inception by those with the most money. Its solid brainwashing if you do not ever question your lifelong beliefs, and some personalities just cannot be wrong.
scinokla ocym - 1) The "anti-vax" movement is not an overnight thing; but a gradual growing response to an observable increase in "mysterious deaths" on all fronts of vaccination MAINLY in the name of women's and children's health.
2) The way medical media address the myriad number of questions of the post-vax "mysterious deaths" and "disorder eruptions" is not helping the situation -- doctored stats, claims on effectiveness, exposure of links of monetary flow between government and Pharma, etc.
3) The effectiveness of vaccination is now under heavy public scrutiny. The alarming "variances" affecting standard mean of post-vax success is unprecedented and questions arise on the research and assumptions behind virology and immunology.
4) The impunity of Big Pharma in pushing chemotherapy as the standard practice despite its much maligned observable failure rate is helping to aggravate the strong suspicions leveled at Big Pharma motives in pushing tens of new vaccines.
5) The number of whistleblowers in the vax arena is adding new levels of behind-the-scenes expose info never before heard or seen. Such information exposed the way vaccines are developed by using live individuals as "guinea pigs". This sort of unethical practices cannot but provide ammunition for anti-vax to call for INDEPENDENT scrutiny on the present crop of "modern vaccine research practices".
6) The involvement of Bill Gates in vaccination programs in Africa is fueling a suspicion of unscrupulous money-sucking billionaire elitists diversification into monopolies, such as forced vaccinations, vaccine experimentation, and human-health-index-standardization.
7) The recent Ebola outbreak incident has already fired up scrutiny on another "scam" as it has been discovered that human-engineered Ebola viruses were patented, forced injections of Ebola viruses (disguised as vaccines) among Afrikans, and the use of the medical media to drive panic that a "super bug" is causing an epidemic scourge.
8) The strong heavy-handedness of governance to cow the people into submitting to vax CANNOT but give an impression of the same pattern of treatment to "anti-establishment" activism -- a desperate attempt to cover up some unspeakable shit.
9) As far as I know, no independent assessment of the content of vaccines has been allowed. Independent analysis from companies like SGS should be done.
The "guarantee of strictest standards of quality, hygiene in the manufacture of vaccines" CANNOT and SHOULD NOT simply be accepted as "sacred and unquestionable".
I have listed 9 out of the 20 main reasons, to my opinion, why the people behind vaccinations are questionable -- they DO NOT sit down to openly and objectively set up a world forum to discuss both sides of the divide.
This sort of behavior to shut people up is reminiscent of DESPERADO governments to shackle up the sheeple. It is so clear and certain. How can there be another reason for the strong cover up and "shut-the-f&$k-up" impunity???
rehcama ert - Science once stated the earth was flat too. Surprise!
- Don’t get me wrong – I wholeheartedly support women everywhere to have siblings at their bi (Type: link | Published: 2015-01-30T23:39:02+0000)
Mothering Magazine: Don’t get me wrong – I wholeheartedly support women everywhere to have siblings at their births, but increasingly I feel like the odd one out. You see, I deliberately never planned to have siblings at the births of my subsequent children.Comments:
remarts eitak - I disagree. Having my children there moments after siblings are born has been incredible. They heard me in my strongest moments, and in my weakest.
nietsrellaw eillek - Though we are also a waldorf attachment parenting family we did not have the children there right at birth. Many of my friends who have multiples 6,7, 10 children do have all their children there. I dont' think it matters. I haven't heard anyone up in arms about this topic. To each their own. I felt like the author was defending her choice. The nice thing about being a fully actualized woman and mother is you dont' have to explain your choices to anyone.
ssensetfol nyrak - To each their own. My children have been present for their siblings births and have not lost their innocence or been traumatized in any way.
lekkin rehtaeh - I remember a midwife I had for baby #1 saying that the amish/old order Mennonites she used to work with always had their daughters present at the home birth, and that the women weren't afraid to give birth, as they'd seen their own mothers do it.
For me, I've had my daughters always present for a birth, and for my son, only under the age of 7 was he present. This last birth, he went to grandma's, but my 4 & 10 yr old daughters got to watch. They did great, with the oldest being happy to help catch her sister. I figured with all the negative or scary birth stories that they'll hear about, or when older possibly see in a movie, that having the imprint of a normal birth will help them when they go to have children.
namdeirf refinej - I fully agree. For me, although birth is natural, it's private! I didn't feel it any less valuable that my kids met their latest sibling a few hours later.
As a midwife, I also know that birth can also have unexpected outcomes that I'm not sure kids need to witness.
Obviously, to each her own and whatever you are comfortable with, works.
Thanks for sharing!
iksworob adnama - I don't think there is any right or wrong way- you do what is right for you and your family! When my oldest was 2, she watched me give birth to her baby sister, a VBAC at home. 9 months ago, both my girls were present while I labored with my son. In the end, they were not with me while I gave birth (they were busy playing downstairs while I somewhat unexpectedly gave birth in bed!). But they were such wonderful labor support for me and it was just natural for us all to be together.
Is this the right situations and plan for everyone? Absolutely not! But for some, yes. Just as every woman has a right to a birth her way, she also has the right to have her kids there.
ermah ennaid - Hmm...I just posted this today: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10204090878166347&set=a.1417585633777.133383.1056713915&type=1&theater¬if_t=like
relgof eemia - I am so glad my 2 year old saw her sister born. She is now 5 and still talks about how special it was.
htebasile ahsas - I don't find anything wrong with siblings at births. I think it could be a beautiful experience. When my daughter was born two years ago, I chose not to have my three boys present because they are so full of energy it is hard for me to concentrate. Nothing wrong with either choice. Mamas need to feel empowered to do what feels best and not feel pressure over who should or should not be there
eiram htebazile - I agree and disagree. Our eleven year old son ASKED to be present when his baby brother was being born. After a great deal of discussion and debate, we followed his lead on this and said yes. We had a friend there also who was able to be his "safe person" if he needed a moment and our midwife was AMAZING with him. He even cut the cord! Our son has many times that being there was probably the most "awesome" part of his life so far. We did not have our middle son in the room, as he was six....and a little squeamish about what may have happened.
reiem rehtaeh - My 4 year old watched her sister be born last month. She loved it and so did we. It was a very special moment for her.
salohcin llij - My oldest son was at all my births and when his wife was in labor be was amazing.
retsof latsyrc - I watched my brother and sister be born! It was amazing! Im much older than them. Because of this it i think it helped us instantly bond. We have always been close. When i gave birth. My sister was there for my home birth of my son. It is all so very special. Birth should sacred, celebrated and bring us closer.
esornep asereht - Birth is natural, if my daughter wants to be there, I don't see the problem.
notsgnivil assenav - My daughter was an early morning homebirth, and my son woke up just in time to watch her be born(see also my husband had just enough time to make a a cup of coffee before cutting the cord), it was amazing.. he never for a second had any confusion about her being his sister.. He was jaw dropped and smiling.. I had originally planned for him to go with someone, but after seeing his face as she was born, it wouldn't have changed it for anything..
notpmoc elleinad - This article is incredibly closed-minded. Of course a 13yo boy should see birth! It will prepare him for when his wife births. Birth is natural, it is pretty gross to sexualize it so much.
ekeniel ihtak - Love Family Birth <3
hponk alegna - My two and four year old sat on the bed as our last was born, I'm thankful that my children will know birth isn't a scary medical event. And now I will never have to explain where babies come from!
reffiep elocin - I totally respect this mother's need in her birthing time.
I also am a child who was profoundly affected by being present when my siblings were born. My children will most certainly be afforded the opportunity to be present as well because of that.
trom l ardnas - Women need to have the right to choose who is present for their births in the same way that they need to have the right to choose the location. For me, having my children present meant one thing less to worry about. I knew where they were and knew my husband was available if they needed him. By the time I had #4, #1 asked to catch her sister and I was proud to have her by the midwife's side to do exactly that.
droffig ymmat - I disagree.
My older children loved being a part of the birth of their baby brother.
If I could turn back time all my babies would have been born at home and welcomed into this world surrounded by the people that loved them
- A response to the ongoing measles conversation from Peggy O'Mara. This can be an emotionally ch (Type: link | Published: 2015-02-02T19:56:41+0000)
Mothering Magazine: A response to the ongoing measles conversation from Peggy O'Mara. This can be an emotionally charged issue so I ask that everyone please keep their comments respectful. Open conversation is encouraged, but hateful responses will be removed from this page.Comments:
nagol anit - "Vaccines" don't cause autism. Vaccines cause Demyelination of the myelin sheath in our brains, THAT causes autism. The MMR vaccine for example, has never, not once been tested as a vaccine. The individual vaccines have been safety tested but the cocktail has not. And that is what causes the problems. The flu shot for another example is nothing more than a glorified pharmaceutical money pit. The government gets kick backs for every single vial sold. The "science" behind it is nothing more than a guess. Scientists literally guess which strain to focus on and hope for the best they also do not safety test the flu shot. They have no time. I'm not interested in something that someone guessed might work. It is completely false when you're told that the vaccine will lessen the effects. That's a myth and a lie so you'll pull up your sleeve and they can cash in. And when someone asked or stated they don't understand why if vaccines are "bad" doesn't everyone get sick. Let me ask you this, why doesn't everyone get cancer? Copd? Chf?? Asthma? Chrons? Etc etc. Because, its more than what u inject, its your environment, your lifestyle etc. I find it actually comical because its only ever two provaccine supporters that get hostile and angry. Perhaps some projecting of guilt? I don't know, bit I do know as a mother, a wife and a practicing nurse, my right to refuse and my right to informed consent has never been more exercised. Remember, doctors also told pregnant mothers that thalidamide was safe while pregnant. Now, how did that turn out?
remaer etak - Unfollowing as well. I can not believe people are still arguing the autism link. It's not the media that debunked it, science did.
aliva ydnarb - I have a vaccine injured child. The decision is not always black & white.
eloc anna - I can not respect people that put newborns and immunocompromised children at large risk rather than accepting a very, very small risk (and large benefit) for their own. I do not blame unvaccinated children. I do blame their parents and hope they are soon held liable in court.
esirap nezarw aras - Lumping everyone who doesn't vaccinate together is nonsense. Don't assume you know the reasons someone doesn't vaccinate. Should I continue to vaccinate my vaccine injured child? Should I be sued if I don't? Let's respond with some grace everyone. If you can't, just do as your mother suggested and when you have nothing nice to say, don't speak.
llebpmac syek arual - The right to refuse should not trump the rights of the rest of us who are trying to protect the health and lives of babies who are too young to be fully vaccinated. I should be able to count on herd immunity to prevent my 10 week old from getting whooping cough, measles and the rest.
notlrahc ynnej - I was an 'unvaccinated child' (in the UK in the 80's) I had measles, mumps and rubella during my childhood. I was lucky and did not suffer complications. As an adult I have received the MMR vaccine due to working in a clinical environment. My immunity was tested & I did not have immunity for mumps. I was vaccinated & tested again, still no immunity. Vaccines do not always work. It is possible to make an educated decision not to vaccinate or to vaccinate. I have chosen to vaccinate my children but do not judge parents who make different decisions.
ytrehguod enirehtac - Wooohooo!!! It's cleaning day on the Mothering page!! Adios to all the intolerant parents who are leaving and unfollowing. Here's hoping you find an open mind and compassion for those who share different opinions than yours at some point in your journey!!
pmakenner anitsirk - Yep. Exactly what Limor said above me. It is ridiculous and incredibly dangerous to act as though this is some kind of debate where both sides have equally relevant points.
nibroc reitla asil - This is such a touchy subject. I am a nurse and well educated. My firstborn daughter was fully vaccinated to age 11 when I refused the HPV vaccine. My twins have been vaccinated on a delayed schedule and are not up to date by CDC schedule. As parents, we make hard decisions. In America, we have that freedom and that right. Science is not advanced enough, nor funding available to test everyone for possible reactions to every vaccine...it is impossible to predict serious reactions, there are often too many variables. Genetics, diet, general health, the list goes on and on. I have trouble understanding people who choose safety over freedom. I also have trouble understanding why parents think it is ok to blame children not vaccinated for spreading the disease. If you ask your doctor for the insert, (it says on the insert for several vaccines including chicken pox and measles), that a recently vaccinated child should not be allowed around immunocompromised people. Why do you think that is? Yep, because vaccinated children can spread the disease to others. Will you same parents keep your own vaccinated kids out of schools and public places for the recommended amount of time? Why are your child and your choices more important than mine and my choices? There will always be disagreement regarding vaccines, but to say it is ok to take away my freedom as a parent because your choice is different than mine....that is NOT ok.
llerttoc rehtaeh - Thank you for this passage, which perfectly states my feelings on this: "Many parents today are more concerned about the risks of chronic disease than the risks of rare acute diseases." I don't understand why so many people think the goal is to try and eradicate all disease, via vaccination. It's not possible. There will always be another. I think it's better to focus on making ourselves healthier and boosting the powerful immune systems we each have.
pmurk nnyl eelhsa - Debunked by the media?? Autism and vaccines has been debunked by SCIENCE, not the media. Yeah, I can no longer follow this page. This is dangerous information to be spreading and the leaps being made are simply ignorant. You know what? Autism has increased at about the same rate as organic food purchases. Uh oh... Organic food causes autism!
As mentioned, correlation is not causation. This article is full of holes.
seven eilatan - Its no wonder I love the author of mothering magazine. Thanks Kristy! I've had a lot of fb "friends" attack the anti vaxxers, i'm so sick of it too.
I will never understand pro-vaxxers "logic". The numbers don't lie and the truth is they are clueless to everything that's in a vaccine. A lot of doctors and nurses are becoming anti-vaxxers too. Why is it so difficult to research something you are unsure about?
Here's measles numbers for you: In 1963 the measles vaccine was licensed and in 1967 it began to be used. Prior to that there were 3-4 million cases of measles a year in the US. Out of those cases about 450 died yearly. When you take into consideration that the population in 1963 was 189,241,798... the death rate for the entire US population from measles was 0.000237%.
Today, according to WHO, there are 145,700 deaths GLOBALLY from measles. The current population is roughly 7 billion people, that means the global death rate from measles is 0.00208%.
0.000237% < 0.00208%
So, comparing the two figures, as a country, we Americans did better in 1963 at not dying from measles than the general population of the world is doing RIGHT NOW. But...the vaccine still gets credit for "eradicating" a disease whose, as I previously mentioned, morbidity rate was already down by nearly 100%.
Yet, people are in an absolute uproar because "anti-vaxxers" are causing these "massive" outbreaks of such "deadly" diseases. I'd take a fever, rash, runny nose, cough, life-long immunity, protection from more serious diseases as an adult and antibodies to pass along to my baby during it's first year of life any day over the MMR vaccine. I'm not interested in a concoction of chick embryo cell culture, WI-38 human diploid lung fibroblasts (lung tissue of an aborted female baby), MRC-5 cells (lung tissue of an aborted male baby) and bovine serum that will only provide temporary (if any) immunity.
Oh but wait...
"The vaccine has been proven "safe" and "effective"." Wrong.
Let me know when someone does a double-blind (saline/inert) placebo controlled study on this vaccine.
"But measles can cause blindness, encephalitis and pneumonia." Yeah, and so can the vaccine, in fact, it can even cause measles itself! -
"My child could die from measles." - According to US statistics, they're more likely to die from the MMR vaccine.
2003 were the last 2 deaths in the U.S.:
"In 2003, two measles-related deaths were reported. The first was attributed to measles encephalitis in a child aged 13 years who had chronic granulomatous disease, received a bone marrow transplant in October 2002, and died in January 2003. Measles was confirmed by a positive serologic test for measles IgM and isolation of measles virus from a brain biopsy. Despite an intensive search, no additional cases were detected in the surrounding area.
The second measles-related death was in an international traveler aged 75 years infected in Israel who had measles pneumonitis and encephalopathy. Measles was confirmed by reverse transciptase-polymerase chain reaction from nasopharyngeal swab and urine."
Vaccines for measles, mumps and rubella in children. - PubMed - NCBI
Cochrane Database Syst Rev. 2005 Oct 19;(4):CD004407. Meta-Analysis; Review
NCBI.NLM.NIH.GOV|BY DEMICHELI V , ET AL.
nospmoht nahgallac nonnahs - Thank you Peggy for reaffirming all I studied 18 years ago to make an EDUCATED decision to NOT vaccinate after my 2 month old had a vaccine reaction. At 20, 18, and 15, my sons are rarely ever sick with even a cold.
snalien yram - For those who comment that this article is "outstandingly written" or "100% truth" or similar, I think you need to look more closely.
I investigated the sources of several of the references and found that quotes and statistics are, as expected, out of context and extremely misleading. For example,
William Thompson, referenced in the article as a whistleblower who had concerns about a report on immunization, definitively stated:
"I want to be absolutely clear that I believe vaccines have saved and continue to save countless lives. I would never suggest that any parent avoid vaccinating children of any race. Vaccines prevent serious diseases, and the risks associated with their administration are vastly outweighed by their individual and societal benefits."
That key point, and his desire for his wish to be clear about the importance and need for immunization, was ignored and hidden. Not "100% truth."
Although somewhat irrelevant from a legitimacy or scientific standpoint, suggesting that more educated people question immunization and less educated people blindly follow immunization standards is untrue.
The rest of the article is basically an assortment of anecdotal comments or misleading or out-of-context information that barely form an article, let alone a cohesive argument.
Bottom line: Vaccines exist that have rare and minimal negative effects compared to the vastly important and positive impact on overall health that they make available. http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/meas.html#complications
It is irresponsible science, irresponsible journalism, and some would argue irresponsible parenting, to ignore the big picture and the facts that are readily available and instead focus on isolated or anecdotal information and claim you are providing a "reality check."
ttimhcs nesnetsirhc yasdnil - Funny how many people are unfollowing this page because they feel people should just do as they do...as if individual choice means nothing. Looking forward to less ignorant trolling posts in the future as a result! Sorry, my child was VAX injured, and had "science" no been so greedy she could have been genetically tested beforehand and we've have known her likelihood of reaction would have been much higher. I'll take a week of illness over lifelong disabilities and autoimmune any day.
reuabgul hcirlu harobed - I have been following this debate for 25 years and I'm all for choice. I am against the idea that those that do vaccinate are not informed. Or that parents of children who can't receive vaccines for medical reasons are not informed. Or that those parents whose children can't receive vaccines don't have the right to be scared. Only way to live in the world is to try and understand all sides. Try to see all sides, there are smart people everywhere.
skcirdneh ztivokreb romil - And with that, I'm now going to unfollow you page. This anti-science non-sense kills people. Kills children.
kanaj htebazile - So glad to see Mothering spreading truth instead of fear! Kudos to you!
aksfensel ztnarf bed - Mothering is a natural parenting magazine that has debated the vaccine issue several times in its pages since I've been a subscriber. I, for one, appreciate a voice of dissent and continue to support the magazine's right to voice it! This is still America, the last time I checked! I would hate to lose the right to choose how and when a parent vaccinates their child!
ztloh aynnos - Thank you Peggy O'Mara for a respectful, fact based article. We all love and strive for what we see as best for our children, and the world.
- According to the American Civil Liberties Union, a breastfeeding mother who brought a case agai (Type: link | Published: 2015-02-04T23:14:46+0000)
Mothering Magazine: According to the American Civil Liberties Union, a breastfeeding mother who brought a case against her employer after being coerced into resigning has been told by the Supreme Court that she did not face discrimination because men can also, at times, lactate. Angela Ames was apparently told to “go h…Comments:
strebor-namroc asil - Sorry, but whoever wrote this article should be fired. The supreme court did not hear the case. The case was decided by the trial court. The analogy was made by the attorney for the ACLU that the decision is similar to the supremes old stance that discriminating against someone because they're pregnant isn't gender discrimination (which, if I am not mistaken has been overturn by a more recent scotus decision). This is intended to get people riled up based on a headline, some will click and some won't. Please report accurately, or you will lose all credibility.
sggir regurk ydnam - This reads like a headline from The Onion.
gnuoy acissej - What the actual F?
etihw rehtaeh - Someone should hook Alito and Roberts and Scalia up to a pump and make them lactate. Fuuuuuuck this decision, for real.
seyah asil - Men lactate too? This is news to me, I would have had my husband help nurse the babies !
muabletit eener - I think one of those Justices needs to induce lactation and come feed my kid so I can have a break.
sa nahgem - I hope she is appealing this and filing a human rights complaint
sdrahcir gem - male lactation is as rare as being struck by a meteorite. WTF are they playing at?
nibur refinnej - Kind of misleading. That wasn't exactly why she was let go nor was it why the Supreme Court decided against her. She didn't follow protocol.
hsam anad - How many men are asking for personal time to lactate while at work? Are they nursing their babies when they are with them? I know it would take a lot of stress off of mom if dad could also pump while he's working too so they could keep a great back up supply. This isn't reality so what is wrong with these courts?
noslen drawde nivek - This is the dumbest thing I have read on the Internet in a long time. I think it is time for us all to grow up and stop blowing a breastfeeding woman out of proportion. It is not a bad thing. It is not a sexual thing. It is a mother nourishing her child. Stop making it something it is not. The company that let her go should be ashamed. The Supreme Court should be aswell.
namhuh arac - Nationwide should be ashamed and this manager should be reprimanded or fired for bullying/discrimination!!
ttenneb niwals eimaj - No, just no. That was a big grab at trying to find some bs reason to not give breastfeeding moms more rights. That judges logic is so twisted.
yeneek arik - Nationwide is, in fact, NOT on your side.
drofwarc yeniar enilegna - I won't be using Nationwide for any of my insurance needs!
yrewol neleh - Let us be responsible in our reporting. The Supreme Court said nothing. They did not hear the case. That happens to numerous cases every year for a variety of reasons. The court simply cannot hear every case, nor do they have the authority to do so even if they had time in their docket. Now if we want to discuss what happens and how we can better support breastfeeding mothers...
onerom arual - I wish my husband could lactate!
eiram inoj - http://www.snopes.com/info/news/menlactate.asp
I feel like this better explains that it wasn't actually the Supreme Court, but was in fact denied by two courts and I really can't understand how.
yenwod rebma - Yea, they lactate at the wrong end......
mutat annala - I think she should have got a lawyer BEFORE resigning. By law they have to provide her a place to pump. They don't have to pay her but they have to provide it.
uicnehg-kalwag eener - This makes me sick!!!! I'd like to meet all these lactating and nursing a child men. This is very indicative of the reverse motion our rights are going in. Now the question is, are we ready to fight?
- 1. Having some “me” time seems like a luxury bordering on gross extravagance.
2. You think (Type: link | Published: 2015-02-07T01:23:06+0000)
Mothering Magazine: 1. Having some “me” time seems like a luxury bordering on gross extravagance. 2. You think it’s totally normal to say things like...Comments:
tdimhcs oalokin aidyl - Lol so embarrassing when you're standing next to another mom rocking her baby and you start rocking with her...empty handed. Can't make it stop!
nerraw ttih ytteb - Don't worry that alone time will come before you know it and you will want some of the old days.
nospmis eener - #30 is my favorite.
yarg eniale ycats - For lunch today I had part of a grilled cheese I found in the high chair :)
erbelec yoj - Baby cutely dressed and me in old nursing top yup
kceb nagem - I'd list off the ones that ring the most true for me but it's nearly the whole list! Hits the nail on the head!
zerimar rehtaeh - #26 is the biggie for me lol
etihw-tannom harobed - HILARIOUS. I especially like 4, 11, 16 and 27 ...
eornum nelle oj - These are great.
kralc atiragram - *sigh* oh the joys of motherhood lol.
netsak llewsob anitsirhc - Those were the days!!
naairda ne sma - Lol @ #23... always...so tried to check the mirror first before leaving home is my first to do...and yes, not only cars and dora stickers but also the bright colored hello kitty hair clips on my hair😳
zurc atnas ydnew - Yup #30 and we are pregnant again! Lol
lednam eicart - wouldn't change it for the world!!
nesejret nitram nna irol - So, what is a "snapping" and a "pre-fold?"
ssiew-lkcah asila - I thought I was the only one that did number four!! Love these.
llerraf nelle - Those were the days! Now I look forward to seeing them (from college) and maybe a grandkids someday down the road!
le er - Haha. I have on a 3.5 yr old maternity tank top right now. Lol. They have the greatest wardrobe. Me? I choose to get them things instead of me :(
nosbod ahsot yma - Oh Rebecca Harmon that is so funny... I am not even going to say how many of those I relate too!
divad ittap - All of the above!!! 😊
llewle eirrek - Ha, yes to almost all of these
- Check out these beautiful historical breastfeeding images. Which one is your favorite? (Type: link | Published: 2015-02-13T03:27:01+0000)
Mothering Magazine: Check out these beautiful historical breastfeeding images. Which one is your favorite?Comments:
yarg retsof anwahsos - These are beautiful. I remember as a child, sitting at the knee of an old Indian chief as he told stories from his past. He told how his mother and all the women would nurse all the babies of their tribe equally; if the actual mother was busy she knew someone would feed her baby for her. He said that it made the children have even stronger bonds because even if another wasn't your blood kin, you considered them your 'milk brother' because you knew that you probably were nursed by the same group of women. As a child that made so much sense to me and I've enjoyed breastfeeding for 8 years now (4 kids) and donating milk to several babies in need. ❤️
zerimar aletse ycnan - I love these photographs. Let's share... And normalize breastfeeding.
elgaeb idnarb - Makes me miss nursing by children. :")
yenalud eiram atsirc - Baby and the bear. Making two babies grow up healthy
damon arret - I breastfed my child for 4 years and I'd do it over and over again!
gnortsmra ellehcim - No matter the years, moms are the same.
llirrub refinnej - Sad that those pictures in today's world would result in children's services taking the children away from the parents and having the mother arrested for indecent exposure. Sad.
yssenneh asir - The migrant agricultural woman from the 1936 picture was also in another very famous photo from the depression fleeing the dust bowl.
oicnaic-inittum annod - I miss this so much! I wish I could have done it longer with my daughter and again with another child.
rones anom - they are all beautiful.
htims eibbor - That's what tits are for...since when did it become faux par ?!
idaba alil - I have about 80 ounces of frozen breastmilk and I don't know where to donate them. (I'm in New York)
irtiam eninaj - Wow! Such contentment revealed in these photos. Love #2!
krap assenav - Corn stalk Madonna is especially lovely.
agairra refinnej - Before I had my daughter the thought of breast feeding was weird to me and I didn't think I wanted to do it. But since I had her (now 5 months old) I wouldn't have it any other way. And sure i would nurse a baby bear, why not!! Lol
sinomis nosilla - Love these! Thank you
notrevo assilem - I like "nurse the baby"
euhonod anitsirhc - Keeps us out of trouble. Bahahaha
lhaw hannah - Tandem nursing a bear! How cute!
sivad snehpets ja - Those are great! I have copies of many of them already. They are archived in the Library of Congress.
hgnis itpeed - This is so Preetyy , got goosebumps , such an amazing feeling
- His text was jarring, almost disorienting. I stared at the screen for a moment in disbelief, un (Type: link | Published: 2014-12-08T20:00:39+0000)
Mothering Magazine: His text was jarring, almost disorienting. I stared at the screen for a moment in disbelief, unsure of how to respond. Didn’t he know?Comments:
otanutrof yngives icats - The only people stressing over it lately seem to be the ones writing articles and posts against it.
zeugnimod anitsirhc - Instead of Elf on the Shelf we have a Kindness Elf that assigns a new act of kindness to complete that day. For example, donate toys that are no longer played with. My daughter absolutely loves it and it reminds us what the holidays are all about.
yarrum anitsirk - We have the Elf and we don't stress about it. Some times I do cute things with her, sometimes I just put her into a different spot.
seog yrrehs - I refuse to participate in lying to children about Santa, the Easter bunny, tooth fairy. He will know it's all pretend and that the presents come from people... Maybe I will let him create little scenarios for the elf for me instead.
ttelpihs-snewo ssej - it's only stressful if you let it be. relax and have fun!
epoh adnama - If it stresses you out, I'm pretty sure you shouldn't be doing it. Simple as that. We don't participate. Even my kids find the elf creepy but they are 14 and 11.
sdrawde namigge elocin - Audrey Regla Cataldo fricken Elf! Just when im almost asleep..... uggggggg.... I need to move the elf😩
sreym rebma - I'm too lazy lol....I do have time to lie to my kids about Santa though...eye roll...
tlefyenahs regrab ylloh - Kids are only little once. The magic of the holidays and seeing their eyes light up is an amazing site. Besides, your not lying. If you remember correctly there used to be a real St. Nick. Its just more elaborated now. When I found out that Santa clause wasn't real, I wasn't angry. My mom told me the real story and I still believe. Its an amazing feeling to just believe and have some hope. I could never imagine not letting my children believe in the magic of anything. And we have 2 elves we move around and interact with. Its not difficult and time consuming. Just another fun holiday thing to do and I would do anything to see the smile on their faces and hear them laugh at the silly things they do!
hsan enileuqcaj asil - I dont find the Elf stressfull at all. Its fun...and the kids get a kick outta it. Totally worth it for the smiles :)
llenkcub eimaj nairb - The elf is making memories at our house that my kids and I will have forever. Plus it makes mornings a little more fun!
eloop ardnasak - Or how about its just too dang creepy?!
ssorcyloh redoy nwad - We don't do Elf on the Shelf, not for any particular reason--just because it seems like "one more thing," in already a busy season. But if it brings you and your family joy to set one up, then do it. Don't stress about the small stuff.
drofnas refinnej - I am a school teacher with 5 kids, 11 and under. I find it stressful for sure. I've realized through posts on fb that most families that do this probably have 1 or 2 kids tops and have time to be that creative. I just don't. I told my oldest two girls if they want to be the elf and move him go for it....it lasted 2 days and then they were over it. Goodbye elf, you are not missed.
anoro yer aerdna - I don't see the elf as a stressful or outdoing situation. I see it as a fun memory for my baby girl. As she waits for her baby brother and has two much older (near graduating) siblings this is something for her! From all of us:) mom, dad, brother and sister have fun thinking of creating be ways for elf to be found in the morning.
namron-ziur .m aoj - Stressing over it? I wait every night (with great joy) for my girls to sleep... so I could find a new spot for Sparkle! I enjoy it! I like to see their faces with joy, and it does not bother me at ALL place her on a new spot every night. Seriously?
neseerd egnelp eirual - Oh my god so much whining.
nna lorac - Someone bought us the elf when my son was a few months old (he is now four and a half). It sat in the box until last week when I unpacked my Christmas stuff again and decided that he needed to find a home where he would not be forced to live in the box. I am a SAHM and I still cannot figure out how people have time to set up this elaborate ruse. I had magical Christmases during my childhood and they never included the elf, so I think my kids will be OK.
dleifriaf retxed asil - My goodness. If it's stressful, don't do it. If you think it's fun, go for it. Most stressful to me is seeing an optional activity being transformed into a debate. There are so many bigger problems in the world.
Next year I'm going to write posts about baking Christmas cookies and how seeing peoples' posts about homemade treats makes me so annoyed. I mean, don't they have better things to do with their time? How dare they make me feel like a less magical mother because I don't bake as many kinds of cookies!
notlwonk nahanom eissac - Wow I find this post so incredibly sad! I think at some point parent magazine was great for moms and gave us some ideas and suggestions and tips that maybe we didn't find other places. But now I question what it is all about.. We have moms fighting on here about which way is better..... the reality of the situation is that whether you do Elf on a shelf or not or whatever your believe in doing for the holidays...there is nothing wrong with it. A's long as your child feels loved at the end of the day that is what is most important. Besides if every single one of us raisd our family the exact same way the world would be a very boring place there would be no differences in opinion and you grow from differences in opinion you may not always take what you hear or see others do, but you'll take some of it and leave the other stuff behind. Parent magazine should be about support and I feel like when I read these comments it's all about separating everyone. There is no wrong way. Whether you do it or not is not important. what is important is at the end of the day your child feels safe, secure and loved. You do what's best for your family. I loved reading some of the positive ideas on this thread....just sad to see the attacking....no wrong way...just your family's way ;)
drabbuh ykceb - My childhood was void of an "Elf on a Shelf"...but you know what made Christmastime "magical" for me? The same stuff I do with my kids: putting up decorations, a tree with twinkly lights and fun ornaments, bake cookies, create ornaments, time spent w/family, Christmas parties, Christmas music/carols, driving around seeing houses decorated for the season and yes, gifts exchanged on Christmas Eve and Christmas morning, and of course the story about Jesus (but that's something we talk about year-round).