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Do religious doctrines belong in public schools?
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[deanna schultz] - Hell No! Of course it doesn't! WTH?!
[trish coate] - Sure, in the heart of any believer, but not from the school itself.
[evan kenneth wilson] - Nope. It's the law.
[becky salibrici] - NO. endoctrination is not education! it's not freedom either!
[robert brown] - Absolutely not religious indoctrination violates the separation of Church & State and the Southern States have been abusing it profusely
[elena duchessofdoom ballesteros] - Separation of church and state, people!!
[sarah mata] - This should not even be under debate! Religion has no place in our schools unless we are talking about cultural studies.
[dan amaro] - straight up NO! Nor do an other doctrines other than sportsmanship.
[sia abderezai] - No.No.No.No.And...No.
[jon young] - NO!!! That's why there's Christian Private Schools.
[nick deloite] - If one person wants to get a t shirt w 10 commend. What the fuck is yr problem?
[rich evans] - Nope. But if they really want to be serious, then they need to put up the 11 Rules Of The Earth from the Church of Satan, The Torah, and the Islamic Ahkam stuff, too.
[anthony clay] - Stick some islam items in the school. lets see if they change their mind.
[earthswakeupcall earthscall] - omg HUFF , this is not a religious piece its our HISTORY and why America is here ...... these fkging idiots who can't see this need to MOVE to another country and see why America use to be so great, these moron trendy obama lovers really need to get their heads out of his a s s, and wake the hell up. This is out HISTORY leave it alone .
[heather scherrer] - Are you kidding me? My kid isn't even getting science and art anymore- so I think that needs to be fixed before this kind of crap is ever discussed again. Once it happens, my answer will be no. You can teach that at home.
[fernando uribe] - Is this really the end of the world? With so many ineffective teachers nationally and their union covering for them, that's really harming schools...not something like this! Any coincidence at the decline of public education since the removal of prayer in public schools? No!
[taumy laughlin] - I went to parochial school and we didnt pray there
[andi dier] - http://i2.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/007/423/untitle.JPG
[trevor smith] - Never. Separation of church and state.
[terry frost] - Let them keep them.. But no state or federal money
[nicole douglass] - No, contextual world religions in the curriculum is one thing; religious creeds posted on the wall where you might expect to find fire drill instructions is another.
[nick deloite] - Is America loosing its mind?
[matt bohrnsen] - Hell No separation of church and state..
[christian burket] - yay. a bunch of hick fascists using public education to shove their religion down the throat of other people's children.
[susan lowry] - NO. Every war on this planet (except the civil war) was because of religion. RELIGIOUS views do not belong anywhere except in the church you attend VOLUNTARILY!
[neil gilfillan] - No. Apparently, neither do teachers (according to people in OK).
[max capacity] - Whats wrong with the 10 Commandments? They are the law and are only offensive to people who are evil. If students dont want to read them they dont have to look at them. I remember back when I was in school we had the 10 commandments on the main hallway wall and a Bible in every classroom. And I went to a fairly liberal school. Students did well and respected each other more. But after they took the Bibles out and the 10 commandments the school started having mass problems and the staff and students turned into a cesspool of hate and arrogance to everyone. Its about morals and good character and if ya dont like it either dont look at it or do home schooling. I attended school in the 1980's and 1990's and my mother was a teacher and we both agreed that the school system did much better when the Bible was in the schools and kids had the ability to read it in their free time. Not really based on our own religious opinion but rather by proof of how things turned out.
[michael aaron hoffman] - the approach of removing all religion from school is only going to create hostility. a more accepting approach would be to include displays of all those who wish and then letting the conversation unfold from there. fear and lawsuits are definitely not the answer.
[theodore tibbitts] - I'd be okay with a class which taught about religions from a secular standpoint, but no, schools should not be erecting monuments to specific religious doctrines.
[simon bacaltos] - Why not? Tweak and change some words here or there then its one of the best moral/ethical codes ever written that bested the Golden rule.
[daniel torrens] - How is a fairy tale set in the Middle East apart of the USA's history?
[vaughn reynolds] - I feel bad for non-Christian students in that school.
[judy munson hansen] - Religion does not belong in schools unless they are teaching all religions. Then something would have to give. Would it be math, history, english, science. Come on be serious, send your kids to your church if you want them to learn your religion.
[ken colwes] - What a stupid question, HuffPost.
[ronald white] - The Ten Commandment as it is written and given by Moses to the children of Israel and Christ confirmed it. As the first part deal with Human relationship with God, the second is how human relationship with each other. Christ put's it simple "We must love the Lord Thy God with all thy heart, and the second is like unto it we must love our neighbour as ourselves, these two commandment hangs all the Laws and the Prophet." Matt. 4>So the commandment is in writings and to post in school is a reminder for students and teachers what their main purpose in life really is caring for one another.
[john keoni devereaux jr.] - NO! because there are other non-christian students who also need to be respected and school officials need to be sensitive with!
[vine devaneaux devine] - Fuck Muldrow! Go Drunsonville Dragons!
[alisan urseth] - why not they teach evolution !
[brenda lott] - No. I'm betting the few moral morons posting in favor of the 10 commandments appearing in the school have no clue that there are really 613 commandments and they all appear in the Torah.
[maria bowen] - Do they mean the doctrines of ZEUS???
[auntie nanuuq] - "PUBLIC Schools" We All Pay taxes to send our kids there....
We Do NOT All Have the Same beliefs. Don't shove your belief down my child's throat, I won't shove mine down your child's.
This is bull shit, genocidal thinking.
[kathy rehme] - They don't. But with all of the school shootings and poor education results there are far more important things to worry about. This really is a non issue.
[teresa loffer] - Christian Taliban out in force i see. Post some stuff from the Koran next to it and see how much they like that. Keep your religion out of school! This country does not belong to any religion and it is high time Christians start respecting that!
[parker otwell roe] - How is that even a valid question??
Gods no!!! (heh heh)
[rik little] - HUFFINGTON POST is merely Feminist, CIA GOVERNMENT BULLSHIT PRIOPAGANDA!
[lamine fofana] - That's why there are religious schools for those who seek religious education.
[jim anselmo] - No...Religion should not be in public schools....now the Pledge of Allegiance should! If you want religon in a classroom....go to your desired religious school.
[emily stone] - Are they not a part of written history?
[bill davis] - no, they do not.
[earthswakeupcall earthscall] - a fairy tail, omg it is part of our American history don't like it move to another country. This is part of American heritage. People who think like you are American's nightmare. These are acts this country is going to regret. Learn history man, Not Obama's re written, politically indoctrinated bs. He is going to bring nothing here but the Muslim brotherhood and yall are going down right with it. just give it a bit of time... jackasses.
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[abby gustchen-reeff] - Freedom if religion means that we the people have the freedom to choose our own beliefs, and to follow them as we will. Displays of religion in public places like schools tramples on everyone's rights, since things like the 10 commandments display are exclude others' beliefs in favor of pushing the idea of one set of beliefs
[alisan urseth] - they've been shoving the hatred for Christian's and promoting evolution for YEARS...
[cindi whiteside] - gov't doesn't belong in education....
[elle vallance] - Not public schools.
[teresa loffer] - Evolution is science ...not religion.
[rebecca ashton] - Religion has its place, to encourage understanding between everyone all the main religions should be taught, as should evolution. Should Christianity be the main theme throughout a schools teaching? No, not when it breeds disharmony and a lack of tolerance of people who are different.
[neill le roux] - "A nation that refuses to allow educators to teach children right from wrong will become a corrupt nation, where sin prevails, evil abounds, and everyone does as they please," said Republican state Rep. John Bennett
Is this guy for real? One need only to look at the US' government supported corporations to know that this already happens. Church and state need to be separate - if there's the insistence that they're not, let them be taxed.
[sam van almen] - Hell no! "in god we trust" doesnt belong over the Anderson county courthouse doors either!
[kevin re] - no! not enough room to make everyone of different religions happy! Dont pick sides, just dont allow it!
[sean moore] - This person, Mr. or Ms. EarthswakeupCall EarthsCall, makes a powerful post-delivery, pro-choice argument.
[mary husak] - I'd say it's up to the school district what they want.. Who are we to tell them what to do... After all the Bible is one of the oldest books and should be read in school if not for any other reason than for history...What is wrong with the ten commandments?
[lee nuckols] - I wonder when the Supreme Court will begin to uphold the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment
[elaine macdonald] - It's not why America is here and they belong to the US as much as anyone. Religious people HAVE a place to have their religious teachings and doctrines; their Church/Synagog/Temple, etc. Let school before education of everything else.
[clark w cowles] - No. That is what Sunday School is for.
[dwan mccarthy] - No. What is so hard to understand about SEPARATION of church and State?
[ron harper] - The Ten Commandments belong in churches only!
[rachel schoenholtz] - how appropriate, since Shavuot is today!
[reid dalton] - A state statute mandating the posting of the Ten Commandments as an affirmation of religious principles may violate establishment clause doctrine (the 1980 case), but a particular school or school administration choosing to post them for other purposes, such as in historical displays or to teach rules of conduct that transcend sectarian lines is a different question. The imposition of a rule forbidding posting the Ten Commandments is as much a religious mandate as a rule requiring they be posted. No Court can impose rules authorizing certain practices and forbidding others without falling afoul of their own Establishment Clause rulings. That is why the history of its interpretation is so nonsensical.
[charlie logan] - Not even remotely.
[mark bender] - Shove it right back up your ass.
[dwan mccarthy] - Teaching right from wrong has nothing to do with religion.
[teresa loffer] - Churches should be taxed as it is. They get too much of an advantage in all of the social issues. NOW doesn't get tax free status but they fight against people who do. They are always at a fiscal disadvantage and that isn't right that anti-choice anti-gay orgs get tax free status. Tax em.
[thomas howes] - "A nation that refuses to allow educators to teach children right from wrong will become a corrupt nation, where sin prevails, evil abounds, and everyone does as they please," said Republican state Rep. John Bennett.
How can someone so stupid be a state Rep? How about teaching kids right from wrong without religion. They are not mutually exclusive.
And making kids turn their shirts inside out is a violation of their 1st amendment rights. They are not a government run entity, they can wear whatever they want!
[candace snowe gooch] - America is not losing its mind...some Americans are though. If this is a public school, receiving state and federal money, then the Judeo/Christian/Muslim ten commandments need to come down.
[lisa stalcup] - if these nuts want to teach their kids church then send them to church schools , teach them at home ,,church has no place at school, it is not about church and praying it is about learning other things that kids need , government is not run by church,,and it should not be the church does not have a say .. because how would decide which church gets to have their say in how things are ran ,, maybe it would be Muslim how would the churches feel about that ,, if the ten commandments get to be in school then so should the important things from all of them , Jewish ,Hindi , Muslim,, paganism ,, Wicca.. all them , that should shut them up , cause they only want their religion in the schools .....
[gary l. dailey] - NO! But the GOLDEN RULE ALWAYS DOES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[earthswakeupcall earthscall] - Those of you who dont want to keep history you want it gone so your sick twisted minds can be ok with --> 12 "Honor your father and your mother, so that you may live long in the land the LORD your God is giving you.
SO instead- YOU SHALL MURDER and it's ok STEAL it will be OK, .... those of you wanting this gone, wanting to be an Atheist are taught this bs. You want no higher powers than yourselves, this makes all your desired criminal acts real, or imagined just ok to do.......... LIE , CHEAT , STEAL, MURDER you all want that to be just A ok..
13 "You shall not murder.
14 "You shall not commit adultery.
15 "You shall not steal.
16 "You shall not give false testimony against your neighbor.
[kathy cronin] - of course not...
[larry barthel] - The first couple of Commandments demand acknowledgement of Harry Potter as the god-king of the universe. The rest are common sense. Why do we need them posted again?
[anthony clay] - ROFL alex jones background. NUTJOB
[adrienne wilkins] - What better place to exercise tolerance than in PUBLIC schools.
[earthswakeupcall earthscall] - sorry im not gay as you so shove it up yours trendy a s s hole
[tahir chatter balci] - Educate your kids at home. Instead of spoiling them. Secularism is separating religion from governing.
[earthswakeupcall earthscall] - I didn't say that is WHY AMERICA IS HERE I SAID PART OF AMERICAN HISTORY LEARN HOW THE FK TO READ....
[dana browning] - they should not be on the wall, but if a student wants to wear a shirt that's a whole different story. I don't see why that's not allowed. that doesn't put anyone else down. I'm not religious, and if you can't post something from every religion don't post anything.
[abby gustchen-reeff] - Being Christian is not the only way people find morality.
[earthswakeupcall earthscall] - he covenant demanded a way of life that was distinct from the "fleshly way of life" (whatever feels good-do it!) toward which all humankind is prone.
[madamtechy chicagobutch] - NO .. separation of church and state .. many in gov't used 'god' throughout their past writings .. 'god' needs to be removed from our currency and all else if paid for by tax payers
[patricia bell] - NO absolutely not!!
[mark bender] - Um, nope. This is not a christian theocracy. Christians do not get to dictate morals to anyone else, especially not our kids. Keep your magical mystical friends to yourself. We don't want anything to do with that mess.
[krista leubner] - Whose religion? The majority? Protestant? Catholic? Quaker? Muslim? Hindu? Mormon? Whose religion should be held above all others In a country that is supposed to value freedom OF religion.
[tony shidler] - I support the separation of church and state. Imagine if Obama really was a secret Muslim/reptilian/vegetarian and said 'now that there is no separation, we all are gonna be whatever it is I am!' People would shit their beds.
[charlie varain] - tell the liberals if they don't like it they can go someplace else
[brandi thisphrasemakesmeanindividual person] - They can list it.....and a shit ton of other forms of various religious texts. Pick none or all
[mark bender] - You don't know your bible very well, nor your history.
[ann dickerson] - https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/935034_488188567920727_1600574061_n.jpg
[angela tellone hatch] - Absolutely not. If they want that, go to private school.
[teresa loffer] - If we hadn't had separation of church and state then the only legally recognized religion would be anglican as it was at the time of the declaration. Virginia wanted to take taxpayer dollars and use it to give to Christian (Anglican ) teachers...but catholics Baptists methodists banded together to get separation of church and state made law. Now they want to make their religion the national rule.
[jordan duncan] - Nope. Separation of church and state, 100%!
[sean moore] - What 10 Commandments? You realize that it's a (1) myth, (2) movie, that (3) Chuckie Heston is dead, and (4) they aren't the "law,: (5) that there are other, equally valid or invalid religions, also separated from our notion of state?
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[mark bender] - Sooooooo persecuted, aren't you.
[earthswakeupcall earthscall] - All you azzes have to do is LEAVE THE ROOM.
[glenn moore] - The Ten Commandments should be posted in every school and governement building!
[stacey jackson roberts] - NO! It is a clear violation of the Establishment Clause.
[colin wedd] - can't see a problem... but you could always re-right them in todays language and no-one will care
[isaac skelton] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzEs2nj7iZM
[sylvia faust] - NOPE, that would be like putting Satan's Bible in the schools, they are both dumb.
[markos silva] - for christians lunatics, fanatics, religious people, looks like to be stupid its to be blessed!!
[jim hello] - HOW DARN YOU STOP Freedom of speech
[yvonne leist-creswell] - why do non religious people have to tolerate the endless demands of the religious?"
Example: "A nation that refuses to allow educators to teach children right from wrong will become a corrupt nation, where sin prevails, evil abounds, and everyone does as they please,"
Has anyone ever heard of the 'Golden Rule'? Seems like a pretty decent basic plan to teach kids right from wrong barring some mental illness where the 'kid' is into dreadful things like 'an eye for an eye' and other torturous idiocy.
[daniel kofler] - brilliant argument little
[scott harmon] - Religious doctrine belongs in private schools, science belongs in public schools. They are mutually exclusive.
[adriana herrera delgado] - Morals and values of course in every public School. But is weird that a public School is catholic and more in these times when there are many points of view about Religion or many people have left catholicism, etc.
[kevin dohner] - If the people of the small town don't have a problem with it, why does anybody else? Why the constant attacks on small town religious beliefs? oh, because they can't afford to fight back.
[mark bender] - For some reason there are a lot of ignorant fools posting here thinking we are the United Theocracy of Christian Bullshit. Sorry, you don't get to proselytize your religious doctrine to our children in a secular school system in our secular government. Stop breaking the law, christians.
[crystal anne] - NO!!!! There are so many religions and spiritual beliefs out there, each one deserves, and needs to be, respected. If you're going to post one religious doctrine you need to post them ALL (and there are thousands) which STILL wouldn't cover someone like me who is deeply spritual but does not adhere to any organized religious beliefs in the whole. And than there are athiests, which contrary to religious belief, DO DESERVE to not be forced into an environment of spiritual or religious aspects and are free to be their athiest selves. Stop this christianity bullshit. This country was born on the notion of religious freedom, which does include choosing no religion or spiritual beliefs at all, and start respecting the diversity that IS belief.
[ann dickerson] - You do NOT need religion to have morals! If you can't determine right from wrong, then you lack empathy, NOT religion, and all the religion in the world won't help you! This country was founded by individuals running from religious persecution, and the Protestant religions in this country, which encompasses Christianity and Catholicism, as well as the Evangelical contingent, are hell bent on cramming their beliefs down our throats in the same way the English monarchy was doing to our Founding Fathers! Enough is enough! This was settled over 200 years ago, and there should be NO debate now.
[robert wence] - Sounds like Rik thinks everyone should live by his religious laws, even the atheists.
[lesley opie] - So are those who object going to chuck out what the justice system is based upon? 10 Commandments are a guide for the right way to live.
[mark bender] - Typical xian arrogance.
[erin joyner] - NO. NO NO NO. NO NO NO NO NO NO NO. NO.
[frank sparks] - and will you allow evolution to be taught in Sunday schools??
[ken johnston] - Lets Educate Church Goers!
[dan amaro] - You want to enforce your doctrine? Go Private.
[jason henderson] - No, they don't belong in public schools.
[robert wence] - Auntie, you stole the words right from me. :D
[tahir chatter balci] - Majority has spoken in the last election. Most American supported liberal ideas & tolerance. So lol., if you don't like it you leave for wherever! We now what your ideas are. Hurray, we are going to let Palin& Bachman determine Americas destiny!
[jennifer scott] - I would say let the kids have free speech regarding religion but often times they are regurgitating their parents brainwashed religious nonsense. The school, however, has no business supporting one religion or a lack of religion. School is a place for academics. If you want your children to learn Christianity then keep up your good brainwashing techniques. They seem to be working mostly.
[robert wence] - Elena, that doesn't exist anymore.
[alexander postnikoff] - NO THEY DO NOT. Separation of church and state should have a third clause: Separation of church from state as WELL as from education/schools, especially ones funded by the state.
[carol scarpino] - NO, unless you plan on including every single religion on this planet!!!
[carolina amelia farias] - A SCHOOL IS WHERE YOU LEARN WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW WHEN YOU FACE THE WORLD ON YOUR OWN IN WORK, HOME AND PLAY. THE WORD OF GOD IS VERY IMPO RTANT BECAUSE IT IS OUR SHELTER WHEREVER WE ARE, BEFORE WE GO TO SLEEP, AT HOME, AT SCHOOL, AT OUR EVERYDAY LIFE. WE USED TO START OUR CLASS IN SCHOOL WITH A PRAYER, THEN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, THEN SONGS OF AMERICA WITH OUR HAND CLOSE TO OUR HEART. i BELIEVE IT ALSO HELPED TO PUT US STUDENTS IN A MORE RELAXED AND SERENE WAY OF THINKING BEFORE WE STARTED OUR SCHOOL CLASS. i THINK WE SHOULD CONTINUE TO HAVE THIS METHOD WHEN WE START OUR SCHOOL CLASS EVERYDAY. DOING AWAY WITH PRAYER AND THE WORD OF GOD DAILY IN THE MORNING, IN MY OPINION, IT LEAVES THE THOUGHT OF VENGANCE THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN LEFT BEHIND THE DAY BEFORE. WE DON'T HAVE A REMINDER TO FORGIVE & FORGET.
[jason henderson] - Lesley opie: none of the founding fathers were christian. Just sayin.
[mark brawner] - So, Killing your neighbood is ok ? Maybe disobeying your parents and elders is ok also? Maybe dont take your friends crayons? So these are all bad things, yeah no wonder this country is beginning to just suck
[mark bender] - ^ model xian, lol. Douchebag.
[cindy mitchell hicks] - I want my kids to make up their own minds, I don't want anyone telling them how to believe. BUT in my house, we live by the commandments. Its the way we are raised in the south bible in one hand, shotgun in the other. Yes I believe we evolved from something else science has taught us that, BUT I have faith in what the bible says, without Faith we are no better than what we evolved from.
[tahir chatter balci] - You are on the wrong wall ma'am !
[robert wence] - Becky, kids don't get educated in public schools. They get schooled. There's a difference between education and schooling.
[glen gubernat] - Lesley Opie, that is non sense. There is no law about lying or going to church on Sunday. 10 commandments are a guid for you to live and that is great and wonderful. I have my Buddhist guid which is good for me
[isaac skelton] - 1. Always be honest and faithful.
2. Try not to kill anyone.
3. Keep your religion to yourself.
[earthswakeupcall earthscall] - Pray to your Hero Obama, can't wait and will laugh so hard when you stupid moronic un educated bozos are so , so screwed over by this a hole. LMFAO the nut jobs are you idiots who have no clue to reality, you dont know it when you see it, and your that stupid. Shove it Look in the mirror wack job freak Republican Senator Hints At Impeachment For Obama Over Benghazi ‘cover-up’ http://www.westernjournalism.com/republican-senator-hints-at-impeachment-for-obama-over-benghazi-cover-up/ YOU A SS WIPES admire a kid killer says a lot about you jackasses..
[teresa loffer] - A student of any faith should be comfortable in any public school in the USA. You can bet your ass that these people would be thankful of separation of church and state if they had to live somewhere that their religion was the minority. Christians need to stop being bullies.
[robert wence] - A continuation of Frank's comment. It's only fair.
[kim marshall cianciola] - Not in a tax payer funded school. If you want the word of god go to church! The bible is a fiction book not law.
[mark bender] - Which laws? Which religion? Which denomination?
[ginger robinson] - Why are you screaming?
[los gayringos] - well does Islams AL-Gebra and Al-Gorithms and the Vaticans Big bang theory count?
[mark godsey] - As long as those schools are private schools or in fundamentalist theocracies like Iran, yes!
[brandon j. wood] - This is a democracy, not a theocracy! Thanks Brandon!
[jennifer scott] - Mark: morals are morals. No one needs commandments to tell them right from wrong. Sets of immovable rules cause hatred which is not very moral.
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[steve strokes] - Sometimes you have to wonder, "Am I making any sense at all?".
[robert wence] - Well, the article says the 10 Commandments, so it's probably the Christian laws.
[earthswakeupcall earthscall] - Hypocritical ass wipes, just like your moron hero wow you all act just like him too bhahahahha no wonder you dumbed down pieces of fly food love this idiot..... Even tells you what he's going to do and you all can't even comprehend the truth he gives you jackasses when it's in your faces... omg the stupidity is mind blowing.
[kim marshall cianciola] - Earthwakeup you are so funny thank you for the great laugh.
[cindy mitchell hicks] - Yes I make sense. Was you raised in a religious household? There is a difference in faith and belief.
[gary kydd] - what moron is doing the lawsuit against a school that has posted the ten commandments example:thou shalt not kill ,thou shalt not commit adultry and thou shalt not covet thy nieghbours oxen stuff all kids need to know come on ppl!
[joanne heidloff richartz] - No... If a student wants the 10 commandments on their personal possessions than fine. But don't shove it down every ones throat and stop playing the damn victim
[brandon j. wood] - Because religious law works so well in the middle east, we should adopt it here!
[earthswakeupcall earthscall] - you must be a girly man to much gmo food, and overly
[jennifer scott] - Be shahs Brandon
[kat wise] - no, never. it's a little thing called separation of church and state -- and public schools are run by the state. if you don't like it, start your own private school.
[manuel dias] - Yes THEY do. America was founded On Christian Principles.
[patricia dilks] - Geez, hasn't this been asked and answered a zillion times already in the past 200+ years? No!!! The only exceptions should be classeds teaching comparative religion, the bible as literature, etc. Nothing doctrinal (or indoctrinational).
[lee nuckols] - With this one comment I can tell you are a very open minded and intelligent individual
[ginger robinson] - Right next to my inverted crucifix.
[mark bender] - Alex Jones, Glenn Beck word salad shooter.
[rachel mccormick chatterton] - Well, well, well. You didn't mention that you AND your mom decided school was better with the Bible. Why didn't you tell me? If you AND your mom decided it was better, it MUST be true *said with sarcasm and disbelief.
[jeremy barbati] - Maybe if the ten commandments did not include the whole, you shall have no gods before me or worship graven images thing. The rest are something everyone should be able to get behind. But education should be about giving thought to all ideas.
[robert wence] - Bible in one hand, shotgun in the other. Sounds like a bunch of rednecks that think their god is all good with killing people.
[murdock woodworks] - No, the Civil War was also a war out of how slavery was or was not justified biblically, so you are right, you would be hard pressed to find a war that did not have some religious influence...the only war i can think of that religion directly came out of from a direct need for peace and not the other way around was Confucianism in the Chinese Civil Wars . However Kung-Fu Tzu never did want it to be a religion as much as a path for peace through philosophy....
[earthswakeupcall earthscall] - This should fit you jack asses perfectly
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[christina frye] - There are so many good, decent sweet people who believe in NO gods whatsoever. The ten commandments are religious doctrine. How about if the country decided we wanted to be a Muslim country all of a sudden?? Well thenI bet I'd be hearing Christians pissing and moaning about separation of religion and state real quick like.
[earthswakeupcall earthscall] - stick ur head in a toilet full because that's what all you jackasses want and will get.
[cindy mitchell hicks] - Yes I am a redneck and very proud of that fact. My GOD is great! And I did not say I use my shotgun to kill people. Bigoted comments like that burn my ass.
I am from Oklahoma and I can promise we are not quite the bigots your comments make us out to be. We are in the Heart of the bible belt and we are gonna put it out there every chance we get, Maybe you bigots should come down for a visit, I promise we won't have you attend a KKK meeting or burn a cross on your first visit<<<sarcasm for you uneducated morons....this is not the 1950's
[kathy kirkland] - The freedom of religious expression is protected for the individual students, not for government institutions or officials representing those institutions. Promoting religion is intimidation.
[brad totman] - No. But it's not like they keep the Sabbath anyways. ;)
[mark bender] - Blabber, blabber, mubmmfffmlbff, you're mumbling and nobody cares, lol.
[robert wence] - Cindy, you said you don't want anyone telling them how to believe? You just said you want religious doctrines in school, that means they'll be told what ot think according to the 10 Commandments. How is that allowing them to think what they want when you're pushing them towards your way of thinking? Cognitive dissodence right there.
[robert wence] - And there are plenty of them all over the place.
[kathy kirkland] - ^Please elaborate...
[de scott-powell] - They want to shove their perverted interpretation of the 2nd Amendment down everyone's throats, yet they clearly don't understand the 1st Amendment any better.
[rudolph valentino] - The Word spreads it's selves...not neccesary it's a choice!
[john iracheta] - Well-reasoned response from a local Pastor. Good read for both sides. http://aarontiger.wordpress.com/2013/05/09/10-commandments-muldrow-and-the-mission-field/
[robert wence] - Oh yeah, can you count the number of number of times a law was passed because of politicians' religious beliefs?
[mark bender] - lol, he got booted.
[robert wence] - Well, it is called the Bible Belt for a reason, I suppose.
[cindy mitchell hicks] - U tell me what is wrong with the 10 commandments? Basically broke down says don't kill, steal, cheat or lie or worship false gods. Is that not what you teach your children?
[francisco magana ruiz] - Public school = no one religion being favored. That simple.
[elena duchessofdoom ballesteros] - I believe the line has blurred quite a bit but it is still there. Some just need daily reminders I guess.
[earthswakeupcall earthscall] - The uneducated goons Abby, have no clue, no idea because they live their life off of Obama and what he says is ok, is ok, they watch to much tv and are indoctrinated so badly they can't see those words he spewed in 2008 " transparent". They can't not even grip the thought that he is and has prompted " a religious war amongst the American people. What you said is right on the money and how it should be one of the very reasons every other Country wanted to come to " America" as well. We use to be free to choose, make choices, be religious or not these freaking jackasses don't get that.
[daphne sheena mcartor] - This can't even be considered an argument because it does not make any sense.
[tahir chatter balci] - Bob, lets have govern this nation, under Palin & Bachman and Glen do Beck!
[royce n young] - By keeping ALL religions out of the public schools your children are not forced to observe any of the teachings of my religion and neither are my children forced to observe any of the teachings of your religion. I cannot think of a better idea than that.
[kathy kirkland] - I hope your kids go to a private school, because if they are being taught religion in a public school, that is a violation of the Constitution.
[francisco magana ruiz] - @Cindy: yeah, that part about not worshipping any other gods beside It.
[abby gustchen-reeff] - Wow@ earthswakeupcall...that is uh, something.
[cindy mitchell hicks] - No they are in public school.
[daphne sheena mcartor] - Besides the fact that the first four commandments are offensive to anyone other than a xtian?
[mike karnes] - Anyone remember we all decided to separate The Church from State and Federal Government. Hang whatever you want Ina private school but in a public school where all funding comes from the State and The Federal Government. Simple to me cut off their State and Federal funding and they can hang Jesus in every classroom. After all the United States was founded for religious freedoms and shouldn't be forced on anyone at any time for any reason. Choose your own god and choose wisely.... Or educate yourself and make your own choice. Don't be a sheep. Blind faith is completely ignorant in my opinion. You don't have to see eye to eye with me to know I'm right. Have a nice night.
[sandra russell] - unconstitutional, remove them now.
The Huffington Post: Do religious doctrines belong in public schools? - 200th Comments
[markos silva] - Robert, you're a moron!!
[sean moore] - Yep, fantastic, but fantastic horseshit.
[anna bucy] - NO NO NO! School is for facts, not myths. Teach religious myths in churches and let people learn facts and how to think at school.
[lewis musick] - Sure if all religious doctrines are displayed. Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist, Hindu, Mormon, Wicca, Satanic, Zoroastrianism, Native American religion, Atheist, Theist, etc., reflecting all of the thousands of religions in the United States.
Since all people contribute to the tax base it isn't right to present just one religious view. Present all or present none. I like the idea of presenting all.
We have a world economy now. We cannot act like we live in the 1800's. Business is conducted on every continent. Our people cannot afford to be ignorant of the world around them.
[sean moore] - My preblim wold be that yr a dumbass.
[robert wence] - Education is when you're taught valuable information about a subject, or subjects. You can take those information and knowledge gained on through your life and it enriches your life. Education doesn't necessarily have to happen in a particular building, either.
Schooling is when you're put in a room with a bunch of other people and are taught the system and how it operates amd your role in it and how it's how it will always and nothing can ever really change. Schooling doesn't start until about high school, in HS, students become totally enthralled in the system of paying taxes and minding any law that works its way through pipe. Schooling doesn't teach morality or how to be a good person, it just teaches you how to live without getting thrown in jail. Schooling doesn't enrich your life at all, it just indoctrinates you into the same system that people now consider the norm, ie. paying taxes that support wars, the two party system that gets nothing done, the countless laws that we all must follow or be arrrested, and all the other stipulations of being a "good" adult. I use good in parentheses because in school, that's what's defined as "good".